Solved Auto mark email as read option
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I have similar issues with Feeds. I don't use Mail, but since Feeds is essentially Mail, I thought I would look over here. How to get this core functionality fixed?
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@ffuser1 There is nothing to do, except vote for the feature request and wait.
Vote for the first post if you haven't already done so. (Voting again will remove your vote).
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@Pesala Is there a VB number that officially marks this as a bug?
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@ffuser1 It is not a bug; it is a feature request. The Bug-tracker is closed, so I cannot tell you if someone has submitted a bug report for this. It would probably be closed as invalid.
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@gmg said in Auto mark email as read option:
Think of the Unread view as a todo list.
Once you click on it, it's marked as Seen (no longer accent color, blue with blue dot) and you've seen the mail (or task).
Marking it as read would mean you're done with it.It makes sense but not always. I receive feeds but I don't read them because they are not full articles. For that I have to click a link inside a message. But that is impossible (for obvious reasons) if I mark it as read. And if I first click a link than I must not forget to go back to mail tab and mark it as read manually. This is horrible user experience. I'm also programmer and users would hang me if I would do something like that in our app.
@gmg said in Auto mark email as read option:
But yes, this will be added.
I wonder when?
Other than that I like Vivaldi as a web browser but also as a mail client and finally migrated from Opera mail.
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@djanci said in Auto mark email as read option:
And if I first click a link than I must not forget to go back to mail tab and mark it as read manually.
Understandable. This is a bit of a workflow thing though - I like to stay in the mail / feed context first, open all links in background tabs with a middle click, and when I'm done going through my mail I start going through the tabs I opened while working through my mail and feeds. In that workflow, manually marking things I'm done with as read is good. To me, the idea of auto marking something as read is totally strange. People are different, and Vivaldi is all about options and allowing to choose, so let's wait.
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The whole problem is due to the existing distinction between unseen and unread.
Please vote for this https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/76545/option-to-disable-distinction-between-unseen-unread-mails-feeds -
When reading this thread, there are extremely many ways to work. Having us forced to conform to one way of work is not productive. I'm not using mail the same way a lot of other users are. For me, the mail is first and foremost an information channel. All important discussions / work things I need to react on, happens in other channels than mail. 99 out of 100 mails in my mailbox is simply informational. I don't need to 'work with them'.
I really do like the way the mail client is bundled into the browser.
Other than that, the user should be given the option to make the mail client work like the user wants to. For me, thats working in the received view, choosing to mark as read after either time or navigation. Sorry for being boring. -
Indeed, the feature requested is really needed.
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Alternative solution could be to add a "Unseen" message category/folder so we can use that as our main folder instead of the "Unread" one without affecting anyone else.
Btw, why "hiding" an item from the folder should "reset/hide/change" your current message? it should continue to show you (on the right side panel) the message u clicked even if it disappears from the list.
Btw 2, I think the whole "treat unread as messages I've actually read but need to act upon later" is weird as hell. I don't dislike the unseen/unread distinction M2/M3 do but that logic is not sound. If u need to act upon some message, mark it as important, mark it with a star, used a colored label, heck there's a ton of stuff for that....
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@TigerShark Nearly everything I get has to be acted upon. My email is my business office. I can't spend all day marking things "important" or "to be done."
For my purposes, bold black is an automatic "Pending" stamp, and that works for me. I really don't care if it's called "Unread," "Special," "Don't overlook" or whatever. Just stay bold until I mark you "Done" (read).
For other users, "Become ignorable as soon as I click you open" may work better. For these, automarking Read on a timer or whatever will become available.
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Disappointing to see 1.0 release without this, as it seems to be the last dealbreaker for me.
Vivaldi mail can easily be configured to NOT do work out of the "Unread" filter, but to work out of the IMAP "Inbox" folder like any other mail client, by hiding/selecting the requisite mail pane entries in settings. The process of sorting mail into folders also works about like any other IMAP client, if the user chooses to organize their mail that way. Therefore, the default reliance of Vivaldi on the "Unread" filter is not relevant to this feature request. People who do work out of the "Unread" filter are free to not use this feature request, and people who do not should be free to have this feature request and enable the feature.
The "Unread" state is also not the same as "Unseen", because only Vivaldi understands "Unseen"; when you use different mail clients on different devices, only "Unread" propagates to non-Vivaldi clients. Therefore, the behavior of "Unseen" is also not relevant to this feature request; this request is for Vivaldi to implement a feature it does not have, the setting of specifically the "Read" state, not a similar functionality that already exists in "Seen".
I know Vivaldi has chosen to present a different type of mail workflow as its primary argument supporting Vivaldi mail and its featureset, and therefore features such as this, which go against Vivaldi's promoted mail paradigm and reinforce behaviors it tries to discourage, may seem to be low-priority or even actively undesirable. But the whole point of Vivaldi is user choice and customizability. Please allow me to manage my mail the way I want, which is the way I manage it in every other IMAP client I have ever used, including those I use concurrently with Vivaldi on the same mail account which do not understand Vivaldi's "Unseen" concept.
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@dominoa welcome to the forum.
To quote from earlier in this thread:
@gmg said in Auto mark email as read option:
But yes, this will be added. We of course want to add things for our users, especially if they're high on the feature request list.
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@Ayespy I envy your inbox then. Every one of my 5 email accounts (2 of which are managed by my employer) have a minimum of 40% spam.... T_T
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Please I want this feature. It's so annoying to see that highlighted number over the emails, telling you that you have unfinished business even though you've actually gone through the mail.
And then you have to find that little button to manually mark stuff as read, it's such a chore. This is a little deal breaker for me atm.
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I want to vote for this feature request too as It's very fundamental thing for using email client.
I hope the team response to this feedback by providing us an option soon
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Hi, I actually don't really understand the discussion here.
My mails in Vivaldi are displayed in blue as they come in.
Once I click on the mail its color changes to black and is therefore immediately and automatically "marked as opened". To me this in practical terms is equivalent to "marked as read".What Vivaldi doesn't seem to offer is an option to prolong the time (by x seconds) after which a mail is automatically being "marked as opened", i.e. performing a color change from blue to black. However, I don't really see much use for such a feature.
What might be helpful to some is to add an option to have a mail automatically "marked as read" (and therefore removed from the "unread" view) once it has been dealt with in some way (answered or forwarded). But to have it done automatically after x seconds does not make any sense to me (as it might vanish from view while reading it).
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Whether you call it 'read' or call it 'seen', my desired result is the same: I want it to become unbold so that I know I have looked at it.
Some people want it to auto-mark as read and some don't. That's why there should be an option for it in settings. I've just started using Vivaldi for email and this is going to be a deal breaker for me.
Secondarily I should be able to manually click the 'unseen/unread' dot in the first column to toggle it without having to memorize a keyboard command or go to a menu.
Finally: on many of my emails, I just click to look at it and see that I don't care and then delete it. The problem with that (without it automatically being marked as having seen/read it) is that if I later have to look at my account through Gmail's web interface, those items are still bold (labeled as unread) and makes me question whether I've seen them or not.
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I'm a power user but discovered Vivaldi only two days ago, now I can only see Chrome as a cheap toy compared to this.
Fell here googling this issue, I'm in the "don't understand how this isn't an option" group, thought I'd pile up to have this as an option, as it exists in all e-mail clients and I miss it badly.
Please and thank you.
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@nmaxcom
Hi, it's relatively easy, view a mail is not read it.
Kind of seeing an invoice does not mean that it has been paid.
I guess the feature would be implemented at some time but in the meantime simply use the shortcut K for make it read or G for make it read and jump to the next mail.
You can use Ctrl +A and K to get all mails read, no idea why some user have a problem.Cheers, mib
