Arching Vivaldifarians.

[guigirl]

@tbgbe Yes, for brevity [= laziness] i omitted that extra info above, but what you added gels with the various titbits i'd cumulatively osmotised around the interwebz. Fwiw, though it might not be clear from my earlier blurts, based on the little i know of "the incident", i don't personally blame the PopOS Dev themself, it's just "unfortunate" that they somehow chose to use buntu [hence apt] as their distro base, instead of [eg] oS Leap, Fedora WS etc [if they still only wanted a fixed-release paradigm]. Both those platforms have superior package management.

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@npro said in Arching Vivaldifarians.:

where's that hilarious video with that "man with a beard" -sry - tearing Garuda apart lol, it should be in this thread, no?

Yeh pretty good, huh? Btw, there's a followup i also watched the other day ... no mercy for Garuda, heehee [i actually used to know some of the Garuda peeps from "before", but feel they've taken a wrong design direction here].

[TbGbe]

@guigirl said in Arching Vivaldifarians.:

Both those platforms have superior package management.

That may be so, but I don't see how any package manager can prevent a bug/cock-up in the build process causing havoc AFTER release.
Presumably, they "may" ensure this should have been caught during testing before release.

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@npro said in Arching Vivaldifarians.:

give SUSE some more respect

I'm really glad i did use TW for 5 months, so i got to know it pretty well, but since thereafter discovering Arch/ies i couldn't return to oS. One of the hilarious things i loved about oS was their true aficionado status re HHGTTG. Not only in their fora, but even to the extent that they broke their Leap numbering convention deliberately as an honorarium... Leap 12, 13, 42, 15...

However, much as i truly do respect oS, its "dependency hell" hazard is something that i simply never experienced b4 my oS TW sojourn, nor after in my Arch/ies. Not Going Back.

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Oh, i might add, re Fedora's package management. For me anyway, as a plodding plonker not expert, the advent of dnf changed the game for me. The older yum usually confused, scared & upset me, whereas dnf is elegant & reliable, also quite fast.

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OMZ!

Running upgrades with the Yum tool was starting to grow unacceptably slow (especially when compared to the likes of apt-get

How is that even possible?????????????????

[guigirl]

@tbgbe I know how you can find out. Reformat your drive then install F, thence Steam. Rinse & repeat for oS. Then you'll have hard data, & we'll all finally know The Truth. No downsides, afaict...

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@guigirl But I've already done that with Pop! No problems.

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@tbgbe Nah but atm you lack the objective data for comparison with oS & F on your HW. Do it, do it, do it... ya wouldn't wanna disappoint all your fans, wouldya?

[TbGbe]

@guigirl Only way to compare would be if Steam install is "borked" in those packages! Are you telling me it is?

[guigirl]

@tbgbe No i dunno, that's the whole point -- we need you & your insatiable curiosity to sally forth & discover! You're our last chance, Obiwan Kenobi.

[TbGbe]

@guigirl said in Arching Vivaldifarians.:

You're our last chance, Obiwan Kenobi.

In that case, I'll have the power.
I may find out but then I'll deny you all that knowledge!!

[guigirl]

@tbgbe Right, in that case...

Release the Ewoks!

[TbGbe]

@guigirl This is not the Ape you are looking for.

[guigirl]

@tbgbe Typo... lemme fix it for you, fully gratis too!

This is not the Apt you are looking for.

[guigirl]

I found a masochist
https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/qwvaen/ubuntu_based_distro_with_kde/

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Oh golly, i found another, albeit quite different.
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=271398

[npro]

what a gem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZSFsidQNXY

[Ayespy]

Just showed Mint the door to replace it with Manjaro Cinnamon. Does that make me an Archer? Gotta say, the DE is quite familiar, but the operation is faster and smoother. Also, it offered me the choice between libre office and softmaker office. No question. Softmaker every time.

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https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/qxhg8v/ah_kteatime_the_years_may_pass_but_you_still/

...from which i thought this was a pretty droll wry remark:

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As an American you can use it to see how long the tea should stay in the harbour.

I really like KTeaTime; it's a great custom timer

Not needed with Vivaldi ofc, but otoh, comes in handy for those times V isn't running [eg, updates, backups, or spending some quality Nightly time].

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@ayespy Hey welcome! Do tell, what lead to your departure from Mint [& hence buntuland]?

No, to be pedantic [who, moi? ] you're not an Archer per se, but you're definitely now an Archier, which is still marvellous, teehee.

Like all of their spins, IMO MJ C is quite beautifully themed, albeit i guess for those allergic to greens it might be a touch tiresome.

Hope you keep enjoying it.

[Ayespy]

@guigirl I read good things about Manjaro, and Cinnamon includes Vivaldi as its default browser, so I thought I'd try it.

Already, it boots and runs faster than Mint.

Teal is kind of a trademark of mine - but obviously I'm not restricted to the first look they offer me.

I see already, though, that I am going to have to learn things about installing 3rd party software - like Vivaldi Snapshot. I can't just download and run the .deb like I could in Mint.

[guigirl]

Genuinely unsure whether to laugh or cry.

https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/qxoxnr/comment/hlb4n6t/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Archer seeks to proclaim he's not one of those arrogant paternalistic Arch btw wankers, but [IMO] massively undermines his entire case pretty bloody badly

One paragraph too many...