Vivaldi translates selected text into a selection of languages, more privately.
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@catweazle said in Vivaldi translates selected text into a selection of languages, more privately.:
It is a very bad practice to notify the user of the monthly costs only after registering and not on the presentation page
It does notify the user on the presentation page:
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We want to be able to customize the search engine on mobile,plz.
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@eggcorn My name is Sridhar and I am a co-founder of Neeva.
We are very clear that we are a paid product. It is core to our business model of having one party to serve: our customer.
We make it clear on the home page, and on our settings and faq.
If you think we can make more changes to make this more clear, please do tell us and we are happy to consider it. We have an experiment to change the button text "Try It Free" to make the paid nature (but you don't need to enter a credit card to try the product) clear.
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Congrats on the new release!
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Rolling on my 4.2!
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@sridharneeva Hello, Sridhar, and thank you for helping make things clear.
I'm interested in the points @Catweazle raises in post https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/516346, with reference to your collection of data. It seems you are casting quite a large net. Can you explain why you would want to know our browsing history before we have arrived at Neeva? Thank you.
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@catweazle said in Vivaldi translates selected text into a selection of languages, more privately.:
be the last straw that on top of being paid they had ads.
We do not show any ads or affiliate links anywhere in Neeva.
I consider this a not very serious practice and with this of course I have no confidence in this search engine and its supposed privacy, which anyway isn't very strong.
Automatic Data Collection. We may collect certain information automatically when you use the Services. This information may include your Internet protocol (IP) address, location information, user settings, cookie identifiers, browser type and version, operating system or device, pages that you visit before using the Services. Information we collect may be associated with your accounts and the devices you use to access your accounts.
We distinguish between an anonymous search engine and a private search engine. Neeva is private, not anonymous. Things like your IP address or location are used to deliver better local results for you. That's it. If you want to turn this all off, there is a single setting that controls whether anything is remembered about your account.
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@paul1149 said in Vivaldi translates selected text into a selection of languages, more privately.:
@sridharneeva Hello, Sridhar, and thank you for helping make things clear.
I'm interested in the points @Catweazle raises in post https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/516346, with reference to your collection of data. It seems you are casting quite a large net. Can you explain why you would want to know our browsing history before we have arrived at Neeva? Thank you.
We have no access to your browsing history before you visit Neeva! The only thing that seems vaguely even possible is the referrer attribute. I will look into why this phrase "pages that you visit" is even there in the privacy policy and look into removing it.
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At last, the meaning of life, the universe, and everything…
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@sridharneeva I confirmed that this was put in place to cover using the http referrer attribute for being able to tell whether traffic to the neeva.com marketing site came from search or social media. That's it.
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@ian-coog Yet, when I broached this very obvious subject last week when I found out that 93 was not going to be skipped in favor of 94, I received a descriptive "Nope" in answer to whether 94 would be.
Yet, it's out in 6 days, which even allowing for Vivaldi's usual 2-week lag is obviously a non-starter, as you suggest.
This all goes to the fact that Chromium has two release schedules now, and Vivaldi hasn't commented on which one they're going to follow. Barring a revolutionary change, the 4-week one is simply not conducive to this product. The 8-week one is all but perfect, however....
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@paragon: , thanks for your support!
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Unfortunately, Whenever I see QR anything, all I can think of is covid 19 pandemic hoax / terrorist operation.
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@sridharneeva Thanks. This makes sense. You need to collect statistics about where traffic arrives from in order to make better marketing and planning decisions. Perhaps there's a less alarming way to phrase your intentions and use case in the pp, like, "We track the immediately preceding, single location from which users arrive at Neeva within the same browser session in order to better understand how we can optimize onboarding, marketing, and growth."
Nothing you say can or will make everyone comfortable.
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@gif2d The next thing we need to know is whether version 4.4.2 will be Olds or Cutlass.
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The vivaldi translator has errors and does not translate all the text.
I translated the website from English to Spanish, but there are some sentences that were not translated. I select the text in English, I click on the secondary menu, I select translate selected text; It does not translate it and the text that appears I do not know what language it is.
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@eggcorn Please check the links on any of our results. You will see that they lead directly to the site with no tracking code, ads tracking, affiliate codes or anything. (While you are it, you should go check redirect chains on ads from other search engines or review sites. They usually have tons of tracking parameters!)
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@gibr This is a good suggestion. Will look into tweaking the privacy text. We are also looking into separating the privacy policy for visitors to our marketing site from the one for Neeva users. This will also help provide more clarity. Thanks much for your feedback.
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Great update
How can I set a language to be the default to be translated to? It always resets to english. -
This is a great feature, however it has one big flaw/bug, that makes it unusable for me at the moment:
Vivaldi doesn't remember the language it should translate text into. I'm using Vivaldi in English (US) language, but my native language is German. So I've configured Vivaldi to display web pages in German first and then English. However, when I want to translate selected text, Vivaldi always translates text to English (US), because that is my browser's language. When I change that to translate text into German, Vivaldi doesn't remember my setting. So the next time I want to translate something, it goes back to translating into English (US) again.
I guess I can't uninstall the Google Translate extension just yet, because I don't want to fiddle with the settings everytime I want to translate an unknown word. Could you please look into this and fix it in one of the next releases? I've also filed a bug report: VB-82913
Thank you!