Vivaldi should move on from being just another browser
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I think Vivaldi should move on from a browser and stretch it's services to actual apps as well, and make Other things, i know this currently is'nt possible with the number of people in the Vivaldi team, but how much do you think you can add to a browser?See where i am going?Vivaldi has already met my needs with features i need, innovation has a limit, and credit to the vivaldi team for having exceeded the limit, but i think that this might stop, either because the particular function is mastered by an extension or because it simply cant be done for other reasons, thus, i propose for the Vivaldi team to move on from just being a browser.
I would love to hear all of your opinions on this, and if you agree, what other apps do you think they should make?
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@hololoyoj I think it will be at least another four or five years before Vivaldi is feature complete and largely bug free across all of the platforms that it currently supports.
Beyond that I would like to see web services much like Opera Unite, which allowed users to transfer files directly to other Internet users (not just Vivaldi users), and to use their own PC as a server.
I already made a feature request for File Sharing like Opera Unite. It has a few votes, but it may be some time before the Vivaldi Team can do this in a safe and secure way.
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@gwen-dragon said in Vivaldi should move on from being just another browser:
I guess hosting such sharing that is a question of cost (dev team, servers).
Development time is needed, for sure, but I thought the whole point of the Unite service is that it does not use servers or store your data in the cloud. It is peer-to-peer networking.
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@hololoyoj said in Vivaldi should move on from being just another browser:
I think Vivaldi should move on from a browser and stretch it's services to actual apps as well, and make Other things
Vivaldi is an appication. And that appication is allredy more then just a broswer. It's an e-mail client, a calender, a feed reader, and maybe one or two other things I can't recall off the top of my head.
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@eggcorn True, what i am saying is to make those other apps like e-mail client, calendar and feed reeder a whole other application in itself
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@gwen-dragon Vivaldi Cloud would be awesome
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@hololoyoj said in Vivaldi should move on from being just another browser:
[M]ake those other apps like e-mail client, calendar and feed reeder a whole other application in itself
Why?
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@gwen-dragon , Windows is this that appears when I turn on the PC, before opening Vivaldi, right?
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@gwen-dragon I hate it too, but e-mail clients and calendars are things that i would prefer as an individual app
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@guigirl surely that would be reassuring, having a custom Vivaldi robot cook would be awesome
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@hololoyoj So to summarize:
- Vivaldi shouldn’t be just another browser.
- Remove everything that makes Vivaldi stand out as a browser.
- Profit!
Sounds like a plan I could get behind
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@luetage No, just saying that some of the features shouldnt be put in just because they can be put in, an e-mail client should be a different app, a calendar should be a web app, except that, its a near-perfect browser in my opinion
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@hololoyoj Separating the email client would mean duplicating the code that Vivaldi uses for rendering emails, which is already there for rendering web pages.
There are almost no benefits, and lots of disadvantages from splitting Vivaldi into separate apps.
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@hololoyoj No, it shouldn’t. The point of creating Vivaldi was reintroducing the features Opera abandoned, a big part of this is inbuilt mail. In fact the promise of mail was the reason I started using Vivaldi. They are never gonna separate it, you can forget about it.
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@hololoyoj , when you give the user a browser and separate apps, you give him just another browser, like Chrome or Edge.
Much better to give him a browser which include all the features which he could need and which he can select itself what to use use or not.
You can have a card opener or a swiss army knife, a browser like others or an internet suite. -
@catweazle Yea this is the part where it all depends on preference
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@hololoyoj I think it is about bugs. There are too many naughty bugs to be able to go develop another application at this point. But bug fixes aren’t exciting, so the team goes and looks for other things to make, and we still have bugs. Hopefully V will one day be as stable as the mainstream browsers - until then, adding more applications isn’t a good idea.
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@code3 Oh, wait, i meant PWAs, i just forgot to mention that, PWAs shouldnt be hard to develop, infact easy and more lightweight
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@hololoyoj So maybe a maps app, or search engine?