No, Google! Vivaldi users will not get FloC’ed.

Marko Indaco

You are AWESOME!

npro

@jamesbeardmore Thanks for the suggestion, theoretically I could also use filterlists produced by AdGuard's DNS service, but the decision has deeper roots as I wrote in my other post.

ReadPriest

I began using Vivaldi for the reasons you describe. I really appreciate that Vivaldi cares enough about privacy to strip invasive technologies out of the engine and keep them out of the browser.

stardepp

@ReadPriest Welcome to the Vivaldi Forum. You may find the following links interesting:

Vivaldi Help https://help.vivaldi.com/

Vivaldi Tools https://vivaldi.com/features/tools/

Local Vivaldi Forum https://forum.vivaldi.net/category/38/local-forum

Vivaldi Code Of Conduct https://vivaldi.com/privacy/code-of-conduct/

Vivaldi Company https://vivaldi.com/en/company/

Vivaldi Business Model https://vivaldi.com/en/blog/vivaldi-business-model/

Vivaldi Bug Report https://vivaldi.com/en/bugreport/

Vivaldi Ad blocker https://vivaldi.com/features/ad-blocker/

Vivaldi Email Client https://forum.vivaldi.net/category/191/vivaldi-mail

Vivaldi Privacy https://vivaldi.com/privacy/browser/

Vivaldi No Tracking https://vivaldi.com/zero00tracking/

Modding Vivaldi https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/modding-vivaldi

Show Me Your Web Panels https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/11564/show-me-your-web-panels

Vivaldi Color Schemes https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/20106/post-your-color-scheme-at-vivaldi

Vivaldi Favorite Extension https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/12540/vote-for-your-favorite-extension

Vivaldi For Android https://forum.vivaldi.net/category/147/vivaldi-browser-for-android

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ReadPriest

@lonm: "We are not paranoid if the bastards really are out to get us."
fifty seven year old Caucasian male.

ReadPriest

@stargazera5: After plague comes famine.

ReadPriest

In the nineties they advertised things I tend to like on programs I tended to watch long before I began using the internet. It would appear they had me pretty well profiled without all of the tracking.

gracc60

Great work people,I with you.Google can FLoc off.
Hopefully more people will wake up but my worry is there won't be enough before the GREAT RESET is upon us totally.

Catweazle

@juanvase , at least, they shut down Yahoo Answers, best humoristic troll page ever.

Kocho

Well, it didn't take long - Google denies profile login with Vivaldi. Prompts me to use a 'secure' browser

Catweazle

@Kocho , do you have cryptographic tokens activated in the Privacy settings? What you describe only happens when this is not the case (or with a outdated Vivaldi version)

Catweazle

@Gwen-Dragon , not directly, but also with things from Google imposed by them.

Komposten

@Catweazle said in No, Google! Vivaldi users will not get FloC’ed.:

not directly, but also with things from Google imposed by them.

Crypto Token is a bunch of general functionality that is required for some cryptographically secured MFA procedures. This isn't limited to Google's services so disabling it can break other sites as well. I haven't found such a site yet (maybe Google enforces a stronger policy for MFA than most?) but I'd expect it to play a role in e.g. authentication using physical U2F keys.

So I'm not sure "things from Google imposed by them" is entirely accurate.

Catweazle

@Komposten , it's a Google script
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/master/chrome/browser/resources/cryptotoken/manifest.json
Mozilla has another one

Kocho

@catweazle: You're right. I had them disabled long time ago. I have reenabled crypto tokens and then logged in no problems.

Kocho

@gwen-dragon: I was not sure even the first time I wrote as I am no expert at all, but for all these years I have seen things And I expect anything from "don't be evil"

Komposten

@Catweazle said in No, Google! Vivaldi users will not get FloC’ed.:

@Komposten , it's a Google script
https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/master/chrome/browser/resources/cryptotoken/manifest.json
Mozilla has another one

Yes, Crypto Token is written by Google, but so is almost all of Chromium. And yes Mozilla has another implementation of it.

The point I was trying to make is that Crypto Token isn't an evil invention by Google to force the world to bend to their will (i.e. "enable our malevolent Crypto Token extension or you can't use any of our services!"). Chromium has it, Firefox has an equivalent, and so do most likely all other browsers as well. It's functionality that is necessary for certain things to work, and it just happens that Google bundled that functionality as an extension rather than building it into the Chromium core itself.

Catweazle

@Komposten , I would not be so sure, it is a very common mistake to think that OpenSource is automatically more private or more secure, The best example is Chromium itself, which is not exactly very careful with privacy and not with security, if it is used as is.
If you look at Google's Crypto Token code, even if you don't have much programming idea, you will see some entries that refer to Google itself or are unidentifiable codes that can be anything, which makes me suspect that this is probably protecting you against harmful sites, but not from Google's telemetries itself.

MichaelTheGamer

@stargazera5, regarding your quote from the Book of Revelation,
I don't want to freak anyone out (though we should, at least, be upset about it), but in the typical UPC barcode, it is well known that the bar thickness, or absence of a bar, etc., signifies a number 0-9, right? But if you look at the left-most, the center, and right-most bars, those 3 longer ones are the number 6! So, technically, 666 is already in millions of barcodes seen every day. Yes, I am a Christian, but I usually dismiss all but the most glaringly obvious conspiracies because if you look hard enough, you can make just about anything eventually say or look the way you want it to.
Anyway, thank you Vivaldi in the No FLoC / FLoC off statement and promise.

Catweazle

@michaelthegamer , 666=DCLXVI=Domitius (or Domitianus) Caesar Legatos Xti Violenter Interfecit=Domicio (or Domitian) Caesar vilely killed the envoys of Christ.
Domicio is the name of the emperator Nero
The Apocalypse is a letter from the years of the Roman occupation with Christian persecution, nothing to do with the devil or end of the world.