GMail access for Mail Technical Preview users – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2115.71
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google still blocked my sign in for g-mail, oh well
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I open a new thread on the same topic published in snapshop previous, because of the need for more information.
I use different keyboard shortcuts using AutoHotKeys, so that when you are in any other program, when you select a text, a script copies it to the clipboard and opens a new page in the default browser.
In one example, the following line opens the default browser, to go to the Wikipedia search with whatever is pasted in the clipboard.
Run https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=%clipboard%
If Vivaldi is closed, he's doing fine. If I open it, and I run that script the first time, it does well. But the second time it takes longer, and the third time more and so on.
I have unglazed vivaldi to have a clean installation, without registering as a user (no extensions, nothing at all). And he's still doing the same thing. Another default browser, based on Chromium, such as Microsoft Edge, does not do the same. It works well and as expected. Then... it's a vivaldi problem
(for not checking every snapshop backwards, I installed version 3.4.2038.4, because I knew it worked well).
I think it is a problem with creating new tabs, possibly dragging from snapshot version 2110.3
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Google has not yet accepted our mail client as a secure app (despite a very long standing request).
Why should they? Vivaldi blocks ads, damaging revenue streams for Google, and pro-actively campaigns to open up the web.
Why should a near monopoly make it easy for Vivaldi? It is a dog-eat-dog world outside of this safe bubble of Vivaldi users.
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@christiehmalry said in GMail access for Mail Technical Preview users – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2115.71:
google still blocked my sign in for g-mail, oh well
Yep, me too. It doesn't even show up as a blocked login in the Google account security pages. Just ... nada.
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@Ornorm Google broke our mail box
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@ornorm: Intentional, see my earlier comment
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@mossman: Another way to access would be to setup an app specific password and use two factor authentication
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@Ruarí said in GMail access for Mail Technical Preview users – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2115.71:
@mossman: Another way to access would be to setup an app specific password and use two factor authentication
Never going to use two-factor since in my opinion it is LESS secure to give away my phone number to Evilcorp.
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@mossman said in GMail access for Mail Technical Preview users – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2115.71:
@Ruarí said in GMail access for Mail Technical Preview users – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2115.71:
@mossman: Another way to access would be to setup an app specific password and use two factor authentication
Never going to use two-factor since in my opinion it is LESS secure to give away my phone number to Evilcorp.
(I'm sure they can scrape that off all their farmed data anyway (I'm very suspicious of default phone and messaging in Android these days), but why just give it away?)
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Sigh... why use gmail in the first place...
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Hi, Gmail is working fine now with IMAP and password authentication, nice.
Cheers, mib
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@npro said in GMail access for Mail Technical Preview users – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2115.71:
Sigh... why use gmail in the first place...
When GMail was literally the only way you could set up your brand new Android phone in 2010...
That's still the only thing I use it for.
Edit: let me rephrase - when Google took all my individual accounts for YouTube (pre-Google), Maps etc. created during the 1990's and merged them (without my consent!) into a single Google identity with a corresponding GMail address around the time I needed to set up my first Android phone in 2010.
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@npro If you use Android, using a gmail account for it doesn’t hurt. I also use it for the chrome extension dev account. Nothing personal in there, so no harm done.
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Adding the gmail account works perfectly now, thanks for the update. It also doesn't nag you with an additional window and login on Vivaldi start and we aren’t signed in to Google sites like chrome store and youtube by default. Great job!
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@npro Because you know your emails will be read, if only by a machine.…
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@mossman said in GMail access for Mail Technical Preview users – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2115.71:
Never going to use two-factor since in my opinion it is LESS secure to give away my phone number to Evilcorp.
Yep, what if the 2nd factor is way less secure? Does the the additional "secure question" (some services force you to add) also considered as two-factor? Like "what is you favorite animal?"
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Very interesting topic about two-factor authentication. It would be interesting to see blog-post about this from the V-team
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@Stardust Security questions are not 2FA. The factors in 2FA refer to something you Know/Own/Are. Both security Qs and passwords are things you know, so no matter how many you have, its still only 1 factor.
But you are right that some additional factors can reduce your security. Like SMS. SMS (particularly the SIM card in your phone) is something you own. However these can easily be stolen due to mobile companies having poor security. And yes, security questions, regardless of what factors they may be, are not great.
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@LonM said in GMail access for Mail Technical Preview users – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 2115.71:
And yes, security questions, regardless of what factors they may be, are not great.
I consider a "security questions" as a second password, so it should be as strong as your main password. But some services limit this input field (length, characters etc),
So I hate "security questions"
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Nice. A wild gmail appeared. Let see how much time G will keep the insecure apps flag enabled.
I had to enable IMAP too as it was off in gmail.@Ruarí It seems that dark theme is inherited by mailer webview, is something known ??
Some mails are dark , some are light (default) , some are mixed.
It seems linked to Vivaldi theme. A light theme is a workaround, but the mailer webview shouldn't use the [theme] background for mails but just use its own.
VB-75077 - Mailer webview inherit the background color from the theme
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I've enabled Less Secure Apps. Then V. asked me whether app-specific or global password. I choose global, and now V. is stuck attempting to sign in.
Ok, it seems to be working with the "app specific" setting.