Privacy alternatives to Gmail? This is Vivaldi partner Fastmail

[jon]

@paul1149 said in Privacy alternatives to Gmail? This is Vivaldi partner Fastmail:

@jon: Thank you, Jon, for continuing V-mail. But I don't see how this new move doesn't place you in competition with yourself, unless perhaps fastmail serves a much higher-strata of email functionality than does V-mail.

@paul1149 , I have always believed choice is a good thing.

[dbouley]

Is there any advantages to using Fastmail over Vivaldi's webmail service? I agree, having choices is good. I have my own domain and use my own Webmail server, which is another choice I have at my disposal. But, I was just wondering if Fastmail provides any extra services that Vivaldi doesn't offer with it's own free webmail service.

Or, maybe this is more of a "public service announcement" sort of post - to inform readers about another e-mail service to help friends of the Vivaldi crew?

[ra-mon]

@dbouley Fastmail offers more space (30Gb and 100Gb if needed), have JMAP support and allow multiples users for one account, more complete alias feature and multiples identities to send mails and 2FA secure login. You also have many choices for domains different of fastmail.com (fastmail .fr or jetemail.net, for example ) and you can also use your own domain name. You can define automatic message in case of absence and, as extra mail/contacts/calendar features, you can manage notes and host some files and even create personal website to share photos, for example. Vivaldi.net offers personal blogs but it's not the same usage.

[jamesbeardmore]

I really appreciate Jon's quick and transparent response to early comments further-up this thread. It's this type of thing that makes users trust the developers and therefore Vivaldi itself.

I think the article would have been even better if it had highlighted the benefits of Fastmail over Vivaldi's own webmail, and also stressed that Vivaldi's built-in webmail is still a private solution (it is private, isn't it!? )

As far as I can tell:

Vivaldi webmail:

• Private
• Offers imap as well as web access
• Has a few nontrivial features such as folders, filter rules and modest storage.

Fastmail:

• Also private
• More storage
• More advanced features, autoresponders, ability to use your own domain, etc.
• Presumably some sort of greater level of reliability/uptime, possibly with guarantees of some sort.

Am I correct?

On the face of it, it therefore looks like Vivaldi's webmail is perfectly-adequate for the needs of most casual users, especially as a secondary address, and Fastmail is a good choice for those people who need/are willing and able to pay for a bit more.

I guess what I'm trying to establish is whether Vivaldi webmail is still private and isn't going away.

[olli]

@ayespy: Guess it was proven right today :-p

[jon]

@jamesbeardmore said in Privacy alternatives to Gmail? This is Vivaldi partner Fastmail:

I really appreciate Jon's quick and transparent response to early comments further-up this thread. It's this type of thing that makes users trust the developers and therefore Vivaldi itself.

I think the article would have been even better if it had highlighted the benefits of Fastmail over Vivaldi's own webmail, and also stressed that Vivaldi's built-in webmail is still a private solution (it is private, isn't it!? )

As far as I can tell:

Vivaldi webmail:

• Private
• Offers imap as well as web access
• Has a few nontrivial features such as folders, filter rules and modest storage.

Fastmail:

• Also private
• More storage
• More advanced features, autoresponders, ability to use your own domain, etc.
• Presumably some sort of greater level of reliability/uptime, possibly with guarantees of some sort.

Am I correct?

On the face of it, it therefore looks like Vivaldi's webmail is perfectly-adequate for the needs of most casual users, especially as a secondary address, and Fastmail is a good choice for those people who need/are willing and able to pay for a bit more.

I guess what I'm trying to establish is whether Vivaldi webmail is still private and isn't going away.

@jamesbeardmore , indeed. Vivaldi.net WebMail will continue to follow the same principles. We are not a company that engages in profile building. We will also continue to improve the WebMail service as well. We just think that providing alternatives, for those that need them, is a good thing and we believe FastMail is a company we can recommend for those that need more advanced services.

[dbouley]

@ra-mon: Hey, thanks for the extra info! Lots of extra functionality there.

[WildEnte]

I should start predicting the end of global warming next.

[prascal]

@WildEnte ... The E-Mail (Web Mail) "integration" into Vivaldi or add any or many mail account(s) to your workflow is in fact possible since long .... ...
Via Vivaldi browser panel....

Smoothly, the way it works. For additional e-mail features switching to the client is not a big deal right?

and Nop, I am not a big fan of this multi functional merging up features-applications. I prefer two high end apps which both comes with a max of productivity- and security features ....

[Zsul]

@paul1149: As I understand, Vivaldi doesn't make any profit out of Vivaldi Mail, so probably it doesn't hurt their business.

[paul1149]

@Zsul said in Privacy alternatives to Gmail? This is Vivaldi partner Fastmail:

@paul1149: As I understand, Vivaldi doesn't make any profit out of Vivaldi Mail, so probably it doesn't hurt their business.

That's a good point.

[Dantesoft]

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[simonwright]

Hi very interesting Jon, As a former user of opera and M2 and still with an active opera mail account now with fastmail. I prefer to use an email address which values privacy particularly for handling finances! Personally I find my Microsoft account is the most prone to bring bombarded with spam! Enjoying using the new built in email client and calendar keep up the good work and looking forward to further developments in 2021.

[Dantesoft]

Good news: routing my emails thru the New Zealand consulate flipped the webrowser again, back to normal

[Hadden89]

@Dantesoft They probably tricked you with a #browser{transform: rotate(180deg)}, who knows

[Vistaus]

Interesting that many of you use FastMail instead of Vivaldi.net Mail