Privacy alternatives to Gmail? This is Vivaldi partner Fastmail

varsha

Google harvests private data from Gmail and makes money out of it. With so much data stored in email, many consider privacy alternatives to Gmail such as Fastmail.

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stardepp

Super happy first

x-15a2

What, if any, impact does/will this new partnership have on existing Vivaldi Webmail accounts?

mossman

Does this mean I can get my old OperaMail account re-opened...?

jon

@x-15a2 said in Privacy alternatives to Gmail? This is Vivaldi partner Fastmail:

What, if any, impact does/will this new partnership have on existing Vivaldi Webmail accounts?

@x-15a2 , it has no impact. We will continue to offer Vivaldi Webmail as before. We also believe that it is good to have a choice and we feel we can recommend FastMail as a great alternative.

WildEnte

I always wanted to start a conspiracy theory: This endorsement of fastmail is a clear indicator, a pre-announcement even of the upcoming integrated mail client in Vivaldi that I am waiting for patiently since aeons while still using M2.

Ayespy

@WildEnte Uhmmm, yeah, no. Not actually any connection whatever. But thanks for playing!

x-15a2

@jon: Thanks for the response and the clarification Jon.

WildEnte

@ayespy: your denial just proves my conspiracy theory! (this is how it works, right?)

Ayespy

@WildEnte That's what I hear. Once you have bought into a conspiracy theory everything, including data which disproves it, proves it.

Catweazle

Interesting offer, if it had come a year and a half ago, surely I would have signed up. But as a retiree who already has several mail accounts (Proton, Tutamota, Vivaldi and some others), it doesn't work for me anymore, I don't need that much mail either. However, I have it in my bookmarks so that I can recommend it to others as an alternative.

Steffie

What is gargle? What is gmail?

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hlehyaric

@Steffie Nothing of interest.

paul1149

@jon: Thank you, Jon, for continuing V-mail. But I don't see how this new move doesn't place you in competition with yourself, unless perhaps fastmail serves a much higher-strata of email functionality than does V-mail.

jon

@paul1149 said in Privacy alternatives to Gmail? This is Vivaldi partner Fastmail:

@jon: Thank you, Jon, for continuing V-mail. But I don't see how this new move doesn't place you in competition with yourself, unless perhaps fastmail serves a much higher-strata of email functionality than does V-mail.

@paul1149 , I have always believed choice is a good thing.

dbouley

Is there any advantages to using Fastmail over Vivaldi's webmail service? I agree, having choices is good. I have my own domain and use my own Webmail server, which is another choice I have at my disposal. But, I was just wondering if Fastmail provides any extra services that Vivaldi doesn't offer with it's own free webmail service.

Or, maybe this is more of a "public service announcement" sort of post - to inform readers about another e-mail service to help friends of the Vivaldi crew?

ra-mon

@dbouley Fastmail offers more space (30Gb and 100Gb if needed), have JMAP support and allow multiples users for one account, more complete alias feature and multiples identities to send mails and 2FA secure login. You also have many choices for domains different of fastmail.com (fastmail .fr or jetemail.net, for example ) and you can also use your own domain name. You can define automatic message in case of absence and, as extra mail/contacts/calendar features, you can manage notes and host some files and even create personal website to share photos, for example. Vivaldi.net offers personal blogs but it's not the same usage.

jamesbeardmore

I really appreciate Jon's quick and transparent response to early comments further-up this thread. It's this type of thing that makes users trust the developers and therefore Vivaldi itself.

I think the article would have been even better if it had highlighted the benefits of Fastmail over Vivaldi's own webmail, and also stressed that Vivaldi's built-in webmail is still a private solution (it is private, isn't it!? )

As far as I can tell:

Vivaldi webmail:

Private
Offers imap as well as web access
Has a few nontrivial features such as folders, filter rules and modest storage.

Fastmail:

Also private
More storage
More advanced features, autoresponders, ability to use your own domain, etc.
Presumably some sort of greater level of reliability/uptime, possibly with guarantees of some sort.

Am I correct?

On the face of it, it therefore looks like Vivaldi's webmail is perfectly-adequate for the needs of most casual users, especially as a secondary address, and Fastmail is a good choice for those people who need/are willing and able to pay for a bit more.

I guess what I'm trying to establish is whether Vivaldi webmail is still private and isn't going away.

olli

@ayespy: Guess it was proven right today :-p

jon

@jamesbeardmore said in Privacy alternatives to Gmail? This is Vivaldi partner Fastmail:

I really appreciate Jon's quick and transparent response to early comments further-up this thread. It's this type of thing that makes users trust the developers and therefore Vivaldi itself.

I think the article would have been even better if it had highlighted the benefits of Fastmail over Vivaldi's own webmail, and also stressed that Vivaldi's built-in webmail is still a private solution (it is private, isn't it!? )

As far as I can tell:

Vivaldi webmail:

Private

Offers imap as well as web access

Has a few nontrivial features such as folders, filter rules and modest storage.

Fastmail:

Also private

More storage

More advanced features, autoresponders, ability to use your own domain, etc.

Presumably some sort of greater level of reliability/uptime, possibly with guarantees of some sort.

Am I correct?

On the face of it, it therefore looks like Vivaldi's webmail is perfectly-adequate for the needs of most casual users, especially as a secondary address, and Fastmail is a good choice for those people who need/are willing and able to pay for a bit more.

I guess what I'm trying to establish is whether Vivaldi webmail is still private and isn't going away.

@jamesbeardmore , indeed. Vivaldi.net WebMail will continue to follow the same principles. We are not a company that engages in profile building. We will also continue to improve the WebMail service as well. We just think that providing alternatives, for those that need them, is a good thing and we believe FastMail is a company we can recommend for those that need more advanced services.