What does the 100 concurrent client known problem mean?

felagund

Google has (after 9 months) still not approved our account access Consent Screen, thus currently the number of accounts that can be logged in to GMail IMAP and Google CalDAV with Vivaldi’s client at any one time, is limited to 100

What does it mean? How many people can use M3 at the same time, realistically?

jon

@felagund said in What does the 100 concurrent client known problem mean?:

In the announcement, it says:
Google has (after 9 months) still not approved our account access Consent Screen, thus currently the number of accounts that can be logged in to GMail IMAP and Google CalDAV with Vivaldi’s client at any one time, is limited to 100
What does it mean? How many people can use M3 at the same time, realistically?

There is no limit to how many people can use M3. There might, however, be a limitation to how many people can connect to GMail using M3. Hopefully Google will resolve this limitation quickly.

LonM

@felagund In order to connect to gmail, the normal standard way of doing email doesn't work. The developers are forced to go through an API that google has full control over.

To do this, vivaldi has to register as an app that people can sign in with. From the quote, you see they get 100 test accounts.

But it is up to google to approve the app fully. If google drags its feet and never approves the app, eventually people won't be able to sign in and use it.

felagund

I see. So in practice, I need to wait until Google approves the application if I use Gmail* because there will be many more people trying to use it with Gmail than one hundred. Where are the times when this multinational was at least claiming not to be evil.

I would probably not open a new account there, but with 15 years of history, it is hard to give up...

saudiqbal

I keep getting error that the app is not verified and hit the 100 users mark.

Pesala

@saudiqbal See the known issues on the Blog announcement.

Google has (after 9 months) still not approved our account access Consent Screen, thus currently the number of accounts that can be logged in to GMail IMAP and Google CalDAV with Vivaldi’s client at any one time, is limited to 100

felagund

@saudiqbal said in Looks like Vivaldi Mail app is not verified with Google:

I keep getting error that the app is not verified and hit the 100 users mark.

Yeah, my very first thread of this subforum was about it. I hope Google fixes it soon.

saudiqbal

I had to enable POP3 to make it work.

Hadden89

@Gwen-Dragon Creepy G.

Hadden89

@felagund I think will be solved soon... not for the not to be evil slogan (which was removed a lot of years ago) but "only" to avoid to be accused of unfair/shady monopolism.

saudiqbal

It means only the first 100 users can use the app. We all have to wait until the Vivaldi mail app is approved. "100 new users in total, after the app presents the unverified app screen" from https://support.google.com/cloud/answer/7454865?hl=en

luetage

@saudiqbal I can’t quite believe the number. 100 would have easily been reached with team and testers. I could log in to it easily, therefore I believe it’s either a higher number or some other arbitrary stat influencing this.

felagund

I read the original announcements that what is important is "concurent connection". Ie. if M3 connects for one second every minute, up to 6000 people could use it (in real life, probably less, because they would not distribute evenly ovver time).

Pathduck

This is probably not the most optimistic message, but I've had an account on start.me for a long time. Over a year ago they lost their "privilege" to integrate their email widget to Gmail, and after trying over and over again to the frustration of their users they've basically given up on it.
https://support.start.me/hc/en-us/articles/200162661-What-happened-to-the-Google-Email-widget-

So yeah... it's Google the giant corporate stepping all over the little people as usual.

Hadden89

@Pathduck Thunderbird too had troubles with gmail. I think most mailers hate google auth.

Pathduck

@Hadden89 Yeah, I suspect if users turn off OAuth2 (2FA) on their Google account it might work setting up as a regular IMAP account. But most users are not going to do that for obvious reasons...

greybeard

@Gwen-Dragon said in What does the 100 concurrent client known problem mean?:

@saudiqbal Googles "Security" tools are really weird.

Yes. They send me warnings every time I use one of my Linux Laptops. Probably because I change Distros a couple of times a year.

Hadden89

@Pathduck i did in past for a spam (not google) account but you'll end to be notified anytime you use the mailer. Annoying, insecure, not always works. 2FA is almost enforced.

Hadden89

@greybeard So much alerts you almost end up to ignore them (like win UAC)

felagund

@Pathduck said in What does the 100 concurrent client known problem mean?:

@Hadden89 Yeah, I suspect if users turn off OAuth2 (2FA) on their Google account it might work setting up as a regular IMAP account. But most users are not going to do that for obvious reasons...

Well, since I have to use this on M2 already, what else can I do:-). This is actually good news to me.