Vivaldi introduces a full-page Notes Manager and configurable menus to its browser for computers
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@ian-coog: As you can see, political aspect has came in the blog by Jon Von Tetzchner Vivaldi's CEO.
//MODEDIT: I have slightly edited your post. Next time, please, be kind to others and observe the Code of Conduct.
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@bongyi As we can all see, the political aspect came only from you. The news item on the Blog is about human rights. Did you send that PM yet to the Community Managers?
You have made your point, and no one has yet deleted your posts, so please stop disrupting this Vivaldi browser forum.
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@bongyi I think, you're overexaggerating a little bit here. It's literally just a screenshot from the Wikipedia article and a quote from The Nobel Prize website, nothing more. Nobody is advocating for anything in the blog post, so why make such a fuss about it? You've made your point loud and clear, but I think any further discussion on the matter is not necessary.
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@iAN-CooG I think that so far, the discussion has been at least civil enough to allow this little off-topic.* As @rluik has pointed out, since the picture is what it is, even if we "clean" this thread now, the discussion will likely return later. I'm in favor of leaving it as it is, although I don't have the last word here.
But regardless, I'd like to ask everyone to express their opinions in a more polite manner. We don't want any fights here, please.
* Obviously, I'm not talking about those posts that were deleted (for reasons that @Ayespy has already explained above).
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@pesala: I think you will agree with me! If you really apreciate the human rights, then has to admit the freedom of speech. I did not do any bad, so please you don't threaten me. I am a Vilvadi user (yet) and not like the new version has came with a political opinion. I hope the Community Manager will answer in this Blog.
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@bongyi , you had the freedom speech, but you cannot ask for freedom of speech by denying it to others, if they do not agree with you, also rightly.
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@catweazle: Human rights (included free speech) are rights for human, but not companies like Vivaldi!
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@bongyi , the universal human rights and the right to free speech, precisely implies Vivaldi, with users from all over the world and who watches over their privacy and security. Who obviously does not support it is who criticizes this.
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@catweazle: I think Vivaldi (and others companies) not know anything about human rights, hatred etc. They follow one rule: make profit.Their abstract rules and policies ridiculous things and aren't in same weight with human rights. Every person have morality and conscience by birth, but companies haven't. Paradox situation there is: companies rehearse so to do as if would be some other way. It is a manipulation. They want to say to human what is good or bad. I don't accept it from they. And it not depends on that I agree with them [or not] in a question.
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I see people who commented days ago but I recieved this update as a mail today. Why was it delayed? I may note that I have not yet used my computer in couple days
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@oSumAtrIX probably they don't mass email everyone with an account here at the same time, but in batches, so someone gets the announcement later.
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@iAN-CooG So you think they do it manually? :smiling_face_with_open_mouth_closed_eyes: Also, I think only those who have Technical Updates ticked in their V-dot-net settings will receive such emails.
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@potmeklecbohdan not manually of course, but in limited number batches, it can be scheduled in 100 at a time, pause some minutes, repeat.
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@bongyi wrong, there are many companies that support human rights and anti-racism, even making it evident in their ads. Benneton, without going any further.This has nothing to do with a certain political orientation, but with coexistence and humanity.Being indifferent to violence and xenophobia may even have as a result a negative impression by the users who suffer from these humanitarian blots.
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STOP THE OT PLEASE. STOP! DON'T REPLY!!
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@iAN-CooG said in Vivaldi introduces a full-page Notes Manager and configurable menus to its browser for computers:
STOP THE OT PLEASE. STOP! DON'T REPLY!!
It's funny how people always fall under the classic trap of trolls, feeding them. Their purpose is always the same, extruding people into unrestrained anger as we saw with the case of AgentX. Whose loss was it in the end?
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@npro said in Vivaldi introduces a full-page Notes Manager and configurable menus to its browser for computers:
It's funny how people always fall under the classic trap of trolls, feeding them. Their purpose is always the same, extruding people into unrestrained anger as we saw with the case of AgentX. Whose loss was it in the end?
Well the posts that got AgentX banned were in reply to me. So your implication is therefore directed at me? There was nothing "troll" like about my 2 posts (which still remain). Their own salacious self-righteousness is what wound them up. Don't make excuses nor lay blame at the feet of others for someone else's own behaviour.
If you want to try and have a civil discourse over this matter, then we can do that in the appropriate thread (which again, this is not).
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@sjudenim said in Vivaldi introduces a full-page Notes Manager and configurable menus to its browser for computers:
@npro said in Vivaldi introduces a full-page Notes Manager and configurable menus to its browser for computers:
It's funny how people always fall under the classic trap of trolls, feeding them. Their purpose is always the same, extruding people into unrestrained anger as we saw with the case of AgentX. Whose loss was it in the end?
Well the posts that got AgentX banned were in reply to me. So your implication is therefore directed at me? There was nothing "troll" like about my 2 posts (which still remain). Their own salacious self-righteousness is what wound them up. Don't make excuses nor lay blame at the feet of others for someone else's own behaviour.
If you want to try and have a civil discourse over this matter, then we can do that in the appropriate thread (which again, this is not).
Please get your facts straight first and then read the part in the Code of Conduct about "counting to 10 before you write", thanks, have a good night.
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That post did not get them banned, which is why I was able to respond to it. It was in fact their subsequent responses to me that escalated and led to their removal. As you can clearly see with their remaining posts being in response to mine. As a matter of fact, their responses to me were removed and they re-posted them. That is what led to their removal from this site, and I know this because I saw it in real time. So if your implication is that their anger led to their removal, then I am a part of that.
Edit: I find it dismissive to call @bongyi a troll simply for exercising an opinion that differs and was nowhere near as inflammatory as the person who got banned
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