One day. Two big Vivaldi browser releases

mossman

@MrDB said in One day. Two big Vivaldi browser releases:

Then I logged in my synch account, synch data and... it's start to crashing again.
I like synch feature and it's worked on previous version (pretty slow but worked). Don't want to miss it.
Any help?

The only thing I could suggest - if you are also using Vivaldi on a PC - is to stop sync on all your devices, and select to delete the sync data at the same time. Then make sure your data is "clean" on all those devices, choose the best PC profile and start with that one to activate sync again.

You may need to correct any strange changes (old bookmarks coming back, clones of notes...) if these start to appear.

Then if you sync your phone last (after deleting all the default bookmarks and speed-dials) it should update with the correct data.

Ayespy

@alvk Yes. it absolutely can. Touch is negotiated through the UI, and Vivaldi's unique UI does not use chromium code or system elements like other browsers - in fact it is its own separate layer that other browsers do not possess, using HTML, JS, React, etc. to build it. It is the source of Vivaldi's customizability. So Vivaldi has to write its own touch code and try to align it with the underlying page and UI.

luetage

@Ayespy Vivaldi's approach to UI isn't unique, it's being used in hundreds of applications these days. Just to name a few: VSCode, Atom, Discord, Github, Wordpress, etc. Moreover, as far as I know the UI is heavily dependent on the chromium rendering engine, without it the UI simply wouldn't display.

Using web technologies to build the UI has an advantage on the development side, you can use similar code over all operating systems, but it badly impacts performance and uses more resources than applications that are being built natively. What does this mean for the end user? The only real advantage Vivaldi's UI provides is that it can be easily modified and changed, even by relative novices, but 99.9% of users will never dabble with this anyway.

Ayespy

@luetage By unique, I mean unique among browsers. It remains that touch has to be negotiated through that extra layer of UI. Yes, of course the Blink engine is required to render everything. But the flexibility of the UI is down, entirely, to the technologies used to build it - and without that, we would not by this stage of the game have anything like the range of features and options that we do.

Fires

@OlgaA said in One day. Two big Vivaldi browser releases:

Tracker blocker, Ad blocker,

i can tell u that Tracker blocker, Ad blocker, has blocked everything for me
cant even log in to webmail:)

Hadden89

@Fires Which lists do you have? I had to remove the Adguard ones, as they "broke" almost any site (github and this forum included).

Fires

@Hadden89

yes that is what happened to me so i uninstalled it
i dont understand what u mean but what list ?

luetage

@Ayespy Except that it isn't unique among browsers either… but why would this matter? It will never be a selling point.

alvk

@Ayespy Well, I didn't know that.

"It's difficult" has never been a good excuse to me, though.

Ayespy

@alvk It's not an excuse. It's knowledge of the landscape. Among the literally thousands of bugs and needed features, this is a more fraught one. That's all.

alvk

@Ayespy I just want it to work. To me, it's like bookmarks or tabs - a default feature that everyone has and I don't want to even think about. With all the advanced stuff Vivaldi offers, why can't they figure out how to implement touch properly? How can it not be a priority in the world of touch screens?

Ayespy

@alvk said in One day. Two big Vivaldi browser releases:

How can it not be a priority in the world of touch screens?

If it had to be top priority for the success of Vivaldi, it would be. Eventually, they will get someone on it full time. Until then, there are other things in front of it, given that the vast majority of users are not on desktops or laptops with touch screens (or like me, have a touchscreen on a laptop and never touch it). If you have a touch screen and rely on it, obviously touch will be important to you. Touch is, of course, critical to Android. But the way the Android build is made means that it mostly takes care of itself. Some Context:

https://www.lifewire.com/should-you-buy-a-touchscreen-based-pc-832342

MrDB

@mossman: Looks like it helped. Thanks.

mwb

Please add a "search and copy" feature when highlighting over text as in Opera. This would be a big plus for me. I would consider switching from Opera if you had this function in Vivaldi.

KimmoJ

But window handling is still sub par. Try having two tabs, then dragging out one tab and pinning it to the top of a second screen. Not only does it stay on the same screen you started out at, it certainly doesn't snap up and maximize on the second screen. This may not be a deal breaker to anyone else, but it alone is enough to keep me on Firefox. Which does indeed handle this scenario flawlessly. I do this enough that the other features of Vivaldi just don't make up for the constant aggravation.

pointed.stick

Thank you!

And the mail client is in the mail, I presume?

Pesala

@KimmoJ You may be using an old version. It works fine here on the latest Stable and latest Snapshot.

Pesala

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edwardp

@Gwen-Dragon If Vivaldi added a mail client to the Android browser, it just might be a first for Android. I'm not aware of any Android web browser which includes a built-in mail client.

StephaneA

Hi,
Congrats to the team for the releases. I've just discover Vivaldi which is great. One thing only bother me: could you change the tab shrinking behaviour ?
Discussed in this post:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/24406/horizontal-tab-scrolling-instead-of-shrinking/79?page=4