Update to Chromium 80 – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 1800.5

MattSolo45

@Gwen-Dragon
2) I mean the very size of the program occupied on the disk.
3) So Vivaldi will not be innovative, but only faithfully submit to the imposed rule? I thought that Vivaldi is trying to distinguish itself from Google and I think it will be more like the Opera.

Ayespy

@MattSolo45 I think you misunderstand. Vivaldi will be enthusiastically innovative and will visually and operationally completely distinguish itself from Chrome. To do this, it will HAVE TO be larger on disk. There is no way to avoid this, as it has an additional layer that Chrome does not have.

Ayespy

@acnapyx On my paleolithic 32-bit P4 Win7 box with two, count 'em, two whole gigs of 200 MHz RAM, it is comparable to Vivaldi stable. Uses about the same amount of CPU and RAM. That said, it is difficult to measure, because clicking on anything in any app on that old box maxes out the cpu. At idle, however, both the old and the new Vivaldi hover around 2% CPU. Both open and operate just as expected. No freezes, no system capture.

acnapyx

@Ayespy Then it's probably hardware-specific problem on my device, can't tell for sure. Just to confirm Win7 is not the culprit tested latest snapshot on ThinkPad X220 with 8GB RAM, everything went smoothly and I see no difference at all. (You're right about going to at least 8GB but this machine required DDR2 so this upgrade is at best overpriced, at worst useless... probably it's time to let those old Elitebooks rest in peace, I guess.)
Thanks for testing it, hope the problem solves itself in a few more snapshots. It's not a freeze per se, more like heavy swapping from hdd which makes everything unresponsive, but there's no sense to investigate further.

rseiler

@rhk: I can't even figure out where the control for this is in Chrome (checked 80 beta), on the theory that it would be the same in this build. It used to be in Flags, but not anymore.

It's interesting that Vivaldi announces support now (though I'm also confused by the word "always," since I wasn't aware that it "ever" did it before) that Chrome may have dropped it.

rseiler

@mattsolo45: The way I understood it, someone correct me, is that when Manifest v3 is implemented (that may or many not happen with 80, I'm not up on the latest), v2 will also be supported. So nothing will change until v2 is killed.

rickmve

Private window (Incognito) shows the extensions on address bar.

rhk

@rseiler I know, I searched all flags but can't find anything related to video auto-play. We'll have to wait for an explanation from the developers.

Aronand

https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2017/09/autoplay-policy-changes this link should explain a bit more in depth how this works

joao.rossa

When will panels get some love?

S_Paternotte

Edit bookmark name is overwriten by original web page name

Create a bookmark using the bookmark icon at the end of the URL field.
Before saving it, edit the name of the bookmark e.g. deleting some characters or words
Notice that your edits are denied i.e. overwritten by the original website name
Save the bookmark and check it in the bookmarks panel and you will find that your (invisible) edits have been made alright

Bug reported: VB-62663

LonM

@Gwen-Dragon @S_Paternotte

VB-62663

I believe this is a duplicate of bug VB-62633

rhk

@Aronand Thanks for the link. After reading it, I have a few questions:

The article is from 2018, referring to M71 version of Chrome. Is it still up to date?
Also, are the 3 switches mentioned in the article operational for Vivaldi?

chrome.exe --disable-features=PreloadMediaEngagementData,AutoplayIgnoreWebAudio, MediaEngagementBypassAutoplayPolicies.
So what actually changed in 2.11.1800.5/80.0.3987.67 regarding auto-play?

newscpq

[BUG?] double clicking on a note, doesn't open the web page it was copied from (or does it?)

Anyone confirms?

W10x64, here

Pesala

@newscpq Yes. It was reported and I confirmed it earlier. In case no one reported it yet, I did.

(VB-62672) Double-click on Note does not Go to Address

rseiler

@rhk No, it's not up-to-date, as the autoplay-policy flag mysteriously no longer exists. It's unclear what that means.

As for what's changing with this build, maybe it's just a couple years later Vivaldi finally actually getting it to work. Previously (and probably still, since Chrome's implementation is pretty basic) people just used the superior extension:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/24303/option-to-disable-autoload-and-autoplay-of-html5-videos

Aronand

@rseiler: While the flag is gone the feature is still there, not sure why it was removed personally. It has been working for the most part, there were just a few cases where it didn't, like re-opening a tab, and opening a bookmarked page.

Aronand

@rhk: I haven't tested the switches myself, but as to what has changed, we basically just fixed a few cases where pages would auto-play without any user interaction.

Pathduck

@Aronand Would any of you guys be able to give any insight in how Chromium 80 has changed the way passwords are encrypted in the Login Data file? Tools like Chromepass etc has stopped working with this release. Did you have to make changes in Vivaldi to work around this?

Ref this thread:
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/43706/did-vivaldi-chromium-change-how-passwords-are-stored-in-login-data

rhk

@Aronand Thanks for letting me know. I'll test the switches in the coming days and will report the outcome.