Open letter to Jon concerning M3

Dantesoft

That being said, we are continuing to tweak code in ways I would prefer not to do on a mailer a lot of people are using daily.

Thank you for future-proofing M3 ahead of its release.
I hope you’ll consider adding some of my nice-to-have features in the development pipeline, e.g. Autocrypt headers (private messaging), JMAP protocol (better notifications, efficient messaging), and my M2 bug reports (account switching, drill-down searching, and message threading).

kahukura

@Dantesoft Let them please release first before we make another gazillion suggestions for improvements.

Edit: It's not Us and them, it is just us.

jon

@Dantesoft The first release of M3 has a lot of features, but it will likely not have all the things everyone wants. That will need to come over time. Same as with the browser. We continue to add features and generally improve every part of the browser. Thus I expect M3 to be great for many, when released, while others will have to wait on their favorite features to be added.

Cheers,
Jon.

Motionshot

@jon said in Open letter to Jon concerning M3:

@Dantesoft The first release of M3 has a lot of features, but it will likely not have all the things everyone wants. That will need to come over time. Same as with the browser. We continue to add features and generally improve every part of the browser. Thus I expect M3 to be great for many, when released, while others will have to wait on their favorite features to be added.

Cheers,
Jon.

Thanks for the updates!

I know you're not keen about sharing exact release dates, which I totally understand, but could you maybe give us something rough, i.e. will we see M3 before the end of 2019, even if beta-only?

jon

@Motionshot , I believe we will have a lot of major releases this year, to be frank. Mail, mobile and more. There is a lot of stuff we are using internally that just needs a bit of TLC before it goes out and some that needs a lot of TLC, but a lot of functionality is in place and we are moving faster and faster.

Zsul

@Steffie You can download your whole email history using IMAP as well. That's what I do not get about POPers. Seemingly there is a perceived relation between the trust in e-mail providers and the preferred e-mail protocols, which I think is completely unsubstantiated. If you do not trust your e-mail provider, you should use e-mail encryption and of course store a local copy of your messages, but this has nothing to do with the selected e-mail protocol.

Locutus

Every update.
Every snapshot.
Just looking for that one word.
M3.

Jon, how much longer do you need to teach us non-sopranos patience?

kahukura

@Locutus I suppose as long as it takes to polish the product for prime time.

saudiqbal

I hope it does have windows 10 notifications and sound for new emails!

Ayespy

@saudiqbal Yes, it does.

mallen

If the initial version of M3 is going to be IMAP Only - will there be a form of local archive?

Can we move every email out of an IMAP account and store it on the local PC while still having fully searchable.

The reason I use POP in Opera Mail is because I cannot afford the costs to keep many GB of old email on the server. If I can move email from the IMAP account into a Local Archive then it will not take long for me to adjust.

Currently my Opera Mail checks 42 different mailboxes, all using POP. About 10 of these are actually dead accounts which I am just archiving the data for.

Ayespy

@mallen The answers to your questions are not entirely known yet.

kahukura

@jon @Ayespy Can we have some heads up regarding that topic? Some of us would really like to see a mature M3 client in the wild. I know WIR and fingers crossed it will happen in 2020. The hunter can wait but sometimes it's a real challenge without some noise..

Ayespy

@kahukura Consider this a rustling in the bushes, very close by.

kahukura

@Ayespy Kinda like that I wanted to read. A real thank you.

saudiqbal

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n8chavez

Is m3 going to be (optionally) integrated into Vivaldi the way that m2 was integrated into Opera (Presto)?

LonM

@n8chavez it will be integrated into it, but unless you use it, it won't be activated nor will it use resources. In that sense it is "optional".

It won't be offered as an independent installer, if that's what you meant.

Ayespy

@n8chavez In pretty much exactly the same way, yes.

n8chavez

@LonM said in Open letter to Jon concerning M3:

@n8chavez it will be integrated into it, but unless you use it, it won't be activated nor will it use resources. In that sense it is "optional".

It won't be offered as an independent installer, if that's what you meant.

Great!! Now I just hope it gets released while I'm still alive...