The 4-year challenge
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4 years ago I used Opera, but now I user this fella
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So, I've been using Opera for a long time, and after they've ditched the Presto engine, I had a hard time finding the right browser. I was bouncing back and forth between Firefox and Chrome, until I found Vivaldi. After that day, Vivaldi became my main browser. The oldest installer of Vivaldi that I have is for version 1.0.219.50, before the official 1.0 release.
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Hmm, let's see. Four years ago I was probably switching between Chrome and Internet Explorer 11 (IE got considerably better after version 9). Between 2008 and 2011, I had used Chrome almost exclusively. But now, I use a combination of Edge, Brave (more as just an experiment), and Vivaldi. Vivaldi has a really strong feature set. But Edge (which I use almost exclusively on mobile) has some compelling desktop features too, like Set Tabs Aside, a feature rich page annotation and sharing function, and Ask Cortana which provides a floating panel of info on whatever you've highlighted. It's adoption of Chromium and Blink will make it even more interesting later this year. Vivaldi is my favorite browser on a desktop, but its lack of touchpad gesture support makes Edge a nice option on my ultrabook. Looking forward to watching the progress of Vivaldi for the next four years!
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Regarding my 'primary' browser history:
Mosaic
IE2
Navigator
IE4
Opera 7
Firebird 0.7
Firefox 1
Opera 8-12
Firefox
Vivaldi (the 4 years since its inception)Vivaldi's future looks good... it may be my last browser!
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No change.
I used Opera 12, and I'm still using Opera 12, because Vivaldi doesn't have RSS implemented. Sometimes I use Firefox (like now, because I was on YouTube, which no longer works on Opera), but most of my browsing is still with the big O.
And I guess I'll be using Opera until someone - Vivaldi, Firefox, Chrome - finally realizes that RSS is one of the most important things a browser should have.
It's surprising how well O12 still works with today's internet. Yeah, sure, many things are broken, but it's not THAT bad, because there's RSS
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After using Firefox for 5 years or so, I was happy to hear the news that Jon and Tatsuki were getting ready to bring us a fun browser to use and customize again. It was 2015, and I was in Japan.
I fell in love with the chameleon color feature at first glance and excitedly waited for a stable version to come for my daily usage.
I moved to Norway in early 2016, and almost right after that, Vivaldi 1.0 was launched. I even remember the moment; I was sitting in the student cafeteria at University of Oslo, doing my freelance work on my laptop. A new life, a new browser.
A year later, I joined the team (!!)
Now I live with Vivaldi every single day. I'm happy to see its growth as a fan user and even happier to be part of the process as a team member.
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January 2015, and today
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@rseiler: Same here, still Using Opera for Mail
BTW: Any hope für mail this year? -
@Wolfgang said in The 4-year challenge:
BTW: Any hope für mail this year?
Unfortunately, there is no answer for your (our) question.
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The first browser I ever used was IE. Didn't like it. Someone mentioned Firefox. Used Firefox for a while. Used Chrome. Then both FF and Chrome. Wasn't exactly thrilled with either of them so one day in August 2016 I started looking for a new browser. Did an internet search and found Vivaldi. Started using V one afternoon and I knew I had found "my" browser.
If any of my previous browsers could do what Vivaldi does I'd still be using them. I fully agree with @Sojiro84 when he said and I quote word for word, "Chrome and Firefox are bland featureless browsers that are useless for me."
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@AnrDaemon Normally I'd keep my mouth shut but you seem to be misleading yourself. Items in quotes are just that, quotes.
Quote..."The most customizable browser out there (install and tweak away)." Oh yeah. Vivaldi is just that.
Quote..."The browser that does not track you (our business is building the browser, not how you use it)." Very true.
Quote..."The browser with the most amazing community (350 000 strong to be more precise)."
Your own reply and I quote..."Does that help me browse internet? No. Irrelevant." The community as a whole does indeed help you browse better. So this point is very relevant.Quote..."The browser that reflects what our users want (and not the agenda of investors pushing for profit)." Vivaldi very much does reflect the wants of their users. That said, your own reply and I quote word for word..."Except two most demanded features, two icons of security that Opera 12 offered to their users, are yet to be implemented." If you are implying M3 and a RSS reader, you're correct. However, Vivaldi is working on them. "Two icons of security" (?) I have no idea what you are talking about.
Quote..."1/4. Not the best score." Honestly, I see it as 4/4. A really good score. Fantastic really.
M3 and a RSS reader? I can wait for a finished and polished product. I want features built with the quality Vivaldi is known for.
HP Envy m7 Notebook, i7-45OU Processor, Win10x64 bit, Vivaldi Stable and Snapshot (Standalone)
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@Para-Noid said in The 4-year challenge:
@AnrDaemon Normally I'd keep my mouth shut but you seem to be misleading yourself. Items in quotes are just that, quotes.
Quote..."The most customizable browser out there (install and tweak away)." Oh yeah. Vivaldi is just that.
Quote..."The browser that does not track you (our business is building the browser, not how you use it)." Very true.
Quote..."The browser with the most amazing community (350 000 strong to be more precise)."
Your own reply and I quote..."Does that help me browse internet? No. Irrelevant." The community as a whole does indeed help you browse better. So this point is very relevant.Quote..."The browser that reflects what our users want (and not the agenda of investors pushing for profit)." Vivaldi very much does reflect the wants of their users. That said, your own reply and I quote word for word..."Except two most demanded features, two icons of security that Opera 12 offered to their users, are yet to be implemented." If you are implying M3 and a RSS reader, you're correct. However, Vivaldi is working on them. "Two icons of security" (?) I have no idea what you are talking about.
Quote..."1/4. Not the best score." Honestly, I see it as 4/4. A really good score. Fantastic really.
M3 and a RSS reader? I can wait for a finished and polished product. I want features built with the quality Vivaldi is known for.
It is true that Vivaldi in some tests is not the fastest, but in my opinion this is not what really matters, if one or another browser is 1/10 sec faster, that in practice is not important, if on the other hand It does not offer me the functionality of Vivaldi.
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Had just switched to Chrome back in 2014 from Firefox due to some unusual issues. Otherwise I'd have been on Firefox until I started using Vivaldi a couple months back. -
Hello.
I remember I change Opera with Vivaldi in the beginning. But Vivaldi didn't work well yet. I tried it a few more times through the years and now I hope to stop looking for "my" browser.
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@nstoyanov73 Hi! Have you tried the latest stable version? The stable version is very stable and is what many users well....use. The snapshot version may have some bugs to be ironed out. For the most part snapshots are reasonably stable.
https://vivaldi.com/ (The bottom of the page has download links for Windows, Mac and Linux)
https://vivaldi.com/blog/snapshots/ (Has blog posts about snapshots) -
4 years ago: Firefox, Opera 12 and Vivaldi
Now: Vivaldi and occasionally FF to use some of the plugins. -
O 3.xx .. O 12.17
<lots of crap in between>
Vivaldi since, dunno when - we just became friends over time.
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Google Chrome back then, currently using Microsoft Edge (anxious for blink update).
Vivaldi is a good browser, but it's not there for me:
- Resource usage is inconsistent (tends to be more resource hungry than Chrome in some instances).
- The settings are a mix of Vivaldi and Chrome pages (with some settings being override on the Vivaldi Pages, every setting should be ported to the Vivaldi Pages).
- Future plans to add bloat like Webmail (I want a clean and light browser, and option to not install those extra features in the future would be a long way).
- Lacks proper WebExtensions Support (even simple extensions have problems working at 100%).
- The updates are not stable enough yet, with always new bugs and issues reaching the stable channel (most of them tend to be minimal and won't affect the browser usage, but I would rather not have regressions in stable releases).
Of course this is just my opinion, you people do with the browser whatever you want. I know lots of people are okay with everything I said above and I respect them.
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@Kobi Be patient as good things will last and grow over time. There is a reason Vivaldi exists and has an ever growing user base.
Mail is NOT bloat, it is wanted by many but not accepted by all. It will have no impact to the general browsing experience for sure.The Earth without Art is just "Eh".
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@Kobi said in The 4-year challenge:
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- Resource usage is inconsistent (tends to be more resource hungry than Chrome in some instances).
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- The settings are a mix of Vivaldi and Chrome pages (with some settings being override on the Vivaldi Pages, every setting should be ported to the Vivaldi Pages).
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- Future plans to add bloat like Webmail (I want a clean and light browser, and option to not install those extra features in the future would be a long way).
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- Lacks proper WebExtensions Support (even simple extensions have problems working at 100%).
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- The updates are not stable enough yet, with always new bugs and issues reaching the stable channel (most of them tend to be minimal and won't affect the browser usage, but I would rather not have regressions in stable releases).
Of course this is just my opinion, you people do with the browser whatever you want. I know lots of people are okay with everything I said above and I respect them.
- Vivaldi is known to use less resources than Chrome. Multiple independent tests have proven this. (You can Google this.)
- Some settings are more logically placed in a "Chrome" environment.
- I don't see M3 as being bloatware. (Do you have some inside information the rest of us don't have?)
- I have yet to see any major issues concerning extensions. Third party extensions have their own child board on the forums.
- The updates are plenty stable. Bugs will happen in "any" software. Snapshots can be by nature buggy.
I cannot live my life based on opinions. I live my life according to facts. The only fact about Chrome I know is that Chrome loads pages faster than Vivaldi. Vivaldi respects their users privacy while Chrome does not. A user can customize Vivaldi tons more than Chrome. Edge couldn't get their version of Opera to work now MS is going to try Chromium. Who knows where Edge will be six months from now.
I wish people would get their facts straight before smearing/trolling Vivaldi.
HP Envy m7 Notebook, i7-45OU Processor, Win10x64 bit, Vivaldi Stable and Snapshot (Standalone)
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