Vivaldi for android
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@awpii said in Vivaldi for android:
@radi8 Focused on privacy, I can recommend Firefox Focus, as it's pretty rad when it comes to erasing (some) traces of your navigation, it also looks pretty and is quite fast!
If you don't care so much about privacy for now (not that these don't have good privacy protection features / policies), I recommend the following:
-Ecosia Browser (We have it's search engine incorporated in Vivaldi [I believe we endorse it too?] and we can plant trees with it! :D)
-Kiwi Browser (Has popup and tracker blocking incorporated)
-VΓa Browser (My personal favourite)
I hope this helps you
Do ignore any articles found on the images, as I took them from Google.
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@awpii "Vivaldi for android is in a very early stage of planning (we're not sure if it's even advanced enough in development to call it an app yet haha)."
Sounds exactly like what I heard 8 months ago when I first started looking to see if Vivaldi was working on a mobile version. Is there a timeline as to when we can expect a beta version? Has much progress been made since February? It's kinda discouraging that it's not "even advanced enough in development to call it an app," still after months and months.
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@alexkven said in Vivaldi for android:
@awpii "Vivaldi for android is in a very early stage of planning (we're not sure if it's even advanced enough in development to call it an app yet haha)."
Sounds exactly like what I heard 8 months ago when I first started looking to see if Vivaldi was working on a mobile version. Is there a timeline as to when we can expect a beta version? Has much progress been made since February? It's kinda discouraging that it's not "even advanced enough in development to call it an app," still after months and months.
What so many people to fail to realize (or even consider as a possibility) is that the Vivaldi team is not Microsoft or Google; meaning they don't have large numbers of people working on all aspects of every future feature all at once. The V team can only do so much each day/night. There are THOUSANDS of bugs to squash, HUNDRED of feature requests, and I can't even imagine the decision making process of knowing where to focus their efforts FIRST.
No one can reasonably expect Vivaldi to pop out with a perfect, polished, full-featured product within a few weeks or months. The average user has no idea - zero clues - about how much work it is to code software like this. I've been there done that, and I know full well what the team is going through.
This post will get lost in a sea of topics and posts within a few hours, but I had to take the time to say it. Seeing people come in here and expecting to have it all - instant gratification - is frustrating to me as a user and forum member. I can only imagine how discouraging/disheartening it can be for the developers.
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@daltondr said in Vivaldi for android:
@ayespy Is there someplace to offer suggestions for features for the Android version?
So far, Opera is the only Android browser I've tried that has Word Wrapping when zooming pages in the browser. Often the text is too small to read on my phone, so I zoom in, which will usually push the text off the edges of the screen. With Word Wrapping, once the zoom is set, the text adjusts to fit within the window.
I can't use a browser that doesn't include this option. Without Wrapping, a zoomed page requires continually scrolling left/right to read each line of text that has been zoomed off the screen. Uninstall.
I'm always amazed at how many people don't find this a necessary feature. I constantly see people squinting at tiny print on their phones.
Every few months I go on a mobile browser hunt because there is a lot I don't like about Opera Mobile, but in the end I wind up back because they're the only browser who gets this even close to right: two finger zoom, and automatically reflowing text. Yes, it occasionally doesn't work well with a website's formatting, especially at more extreme levels of zoom, but any desktop browser is no different. Go ahead and drag that zoom slider over to 400% on a few pages and see how the formatting holds up.
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@joelyoung Thank you for the reply. I by no means intend disrespect to the developers. The wording was definitely harsh, though I do want to point out one thing:
"No one can reasonably expect Vivaldi to pop out with a perfect, polished, full-featured product within a few weeks or months."
I never suggested any of that. I just noted that the project is in the same stage as it was 8 months ago, and wondered if it is close to entering beta. A far cry from coming back in three weeks and asking why it's not in the play store.
I understand that this takes a while and that will result in it being a better product. I also understand that there is a lot to focus on, and that new features take a lot of time. I see a lot of great new features coming out and they really are well done. I was really just curious as to the status of mobile, and the frustrated tone was uncalled for.
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@alexkven said in Vivaldi for android:
I just noted that the project is in the same stage as it was 8 months ago
Not really. There is progress. But Vivaldi never, under any circumstances, estimates completion dates. Things are ready when they're ready.
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@alexkven Allow me to assist you with that,
You see, Software development (Specially for Browsers) is not particularly easy, specially when you're working with 2 different products at once (as it is with the android version and PC/Linux version of Vivaldi, so let's say 3 products instead due to the difference, this makes it even harder when your team is as small as Vivaldi's.
Therefore, we should be amazed of how little progress was made in these 8 months if any, given that we got to Vivaldi 2.0, I wouldn't be amazed if the Android version was released in 2 months, however, we have no dates or a Roadmap, as it is not the main feature of Vivaldi to be multiplatform.
So please, have patience, it will be released and the team is surely working on it as hard as they can without ignoring their main scope.
And I do agree, the wording was too harsh
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@AlexKven in fact, look at this comment from 2017:
@jon said in Vivaldi browser for android:
It is on the way. We actually have people on it now. I even have a very early version running on my phone.
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This early prerelease phase of the browser is arguably the most important. It's here that the design has to be figured out and the core ideas of what will differentiate the browser from the crowd are decided.
It could be hard to change those later once everything is already public.
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@hoytridge said in Vivaldi for android:
@LonM said in Vivaldi for android:
This early prerelease phase of the browser is arguably the most important. It's here that the design has to be figured out and the core ideas of what will differentiate the browser from the crowd are decided.
It could be hard to change those later once everything is already public.
I think people want vivaldi on their phones not because they want vivaldi browser by itself, but because they want to have sync between pc and phones, so they will be able to continue to read sites when switching to other device type (pc to phone and vice versa).
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Cant wait to get Updates bout this topic; I hope there also maybe a additional App for Mail and for Blog
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This newspaper article has interesting news about Vivaldi for Android and the email client M3:
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@hoytridge said in Vivaldi for android:
I think people want vivaldi on their phones not because they want vivaldi browser by itself, but because they want to have sync between pc and phones, so they will be able to continue to read sites when switching to other device type (pc to phone and vice versa).
This is key. Although I am sure that Vivaldi for Android will ultimately deliver useful new features, I think you could buy time by packaging a plugin/add on that makes syncing bookmarks and maybe tabs possible to-and-from mobile. I don't know if Chrome for Android supports this, but that would seem like the most logical place to offer it. It seems like there is now some native syncing that works with Vivaldi, which was not functioning with Google's bookmarks syncing before. I have taken to using FVD Synchronizer from the time before that feature was offered. I can probably find something similar if Chrome for Android supports extensions/add ons (I don't yet know, since I am still on a Windows 10 Mobile phone, but came upon this thread as I am looking to switch very soon).
It sounds like, from the article, that it is likely to become available before year's end. Unlike the desktop, where myriad options allow customization, I would say that the limited real estate of the mobile screen would mean some of the most welcome features would facilitate normal navigation functions, while taking up a minimum of on-screen space. Gestures, collapsible menus, and auto-hide bars, such as tabs would all be great ways to achieve this.
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Hi, today i discored this amazing browser, and i already using this as my main browser!
I really want a mobile browser, and i ser other people want too. So, i Will indicate Yandex, i doesn't use Chrome anymore!
When The mobile version comes out i Will change the yandex for the vivaldi mobile! And i want a function that have on yandex and in opera: synced tabs - ALL tabs in ALL devices. For example i was searching fish on my Android, and when i enter on my Pc, i canal Acess that tab!
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@spardev Vivaldi for Android will be released at the end of the year, according to Jon (CEO of Vivaldi Team)
... Is everything here in this newspaper article:
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@spardev Welcome to the forum and have fun with Vivaldi.
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@JoelYoung said in Vivaldi for android:
@alexkven said in Vivaldi for android:
@awpii "Vivaldi for android is in a very early stage of planning (we're not sure if it's even advanced enough in development to call it an app yet haha)."
Sounds exactly like what I heard 8 months ago when I first started looking to see if Vivaldi was working on a mobile version. Is there a timeline as to when we can expect a beta version? Has much progress been made since February? It's kinda discouraging that it's not "even advanced enough in development to call it an app," still after months and months.
What so many people to fail to realize (or even consider as a possibility) is that the Vivaldi team is not Microsoft or Google; meaning they don't have large numbers of people working on all aspects of every future feature all at once. The V team can only do so much each day/night. There are THOUSANDS of bugs to squash, HUNDRED of feature requests, and I can't even imagine the decision making process of knowing where to focus their efforts FIRST.
No one can reasonably expect Vivaldi to pop out with a perfect, polished, full-featured product within a few weeks or months. The average user has no idea - zero clues - about how much work it is to code software like this. I've been there done that, and I know full well what the team is going through.
This post will get lost in a sea of topics and posts within a few hours, but I had to take the time to say it. Seeing people come in here and expecting to have it all - instant gratification - is frustrating to me as a user and forum member. I can only imagine how discouraging/disheartening it can be for the developers.
I just want to point it never got lost. It's important that we get an android presence but not before stuff like syncing works there. No reason to bring up a sucky browser for mobile that is already sucky to use compared to a pc setup.
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@stardepp Nice! Great News!
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@AlexKven said in Vivaldi for android:
Sounds exactly like what I heard 8 months ago when I first started looking to see if Vivaldi was working on a mobile version. Is there a timeline as to when we can expect a beta version? Has much progress been made since February?
I will mention, 8 months ago Mobile was not in broad internal testing (for instance I did not have access to a copy). Now we internal testers have it on our phones. It's pretty good, actually. No sync yet, etc., so not ready for release.
Is there a timeline? Vivaldi does not issue timelines. Jon has said publicly he expects it to be released this year.
Has much progress been made since February? I'm on my third test version.