What is stopping you from using V all the time?

Nekomajin

For me, the most important reason is the rudimentary GUI design.

The speed dial is horrible. Using custom thumbnails is great, but I don't want to deal with it. There must be an option to use the icon set from the head of the page, not just a screenshot.
The bookmarks manager is powerful, but the GUI itself is a mess. Too much panels and sections, and it lacks the ability to toggle between list and thumbnails view. It is a great option in Opera.
The lack of native OS design is a MAJOR setback for me. The Opera reborn design is a joke too, but even that looks better, than Vivaldi.

It's nice to have the ability to customize the GUI with CSS, but we are not in the 90s. I am not a kid anymore, and don't have the time to hack the software.

Other stuff preventing me to switch from Opera:

The search popup is a killer feature. It is so simple, yet powerful. And it has a lot of further potential.
The video popup is also handy.
There are great extensions in the Opera addon catalog, which can not be found in the Chrome catalog. I don't want to spend time looking for replacements.

aach1

@nekomajin sorry, but I have to disagree about speed dial. it's the thing I miss most when switching back to Firefox or Edge. There are things that could be improved - e.g. opening everything in a folder into a tab stack - but other than that it's a much nicer and more customizable favorites page than the rest have. If you're comparing with Opera, no opinion as I don't know Opera at all.

Nekomajin

@aach1
I agree with your thoughts, however, there are certain things, that missing even from Vivaldi. The design is subjective, but

if you compare it with Opera's, that one looks much better,
Opera has the ability to use images from the site, zoom/pan the screenshot or use the fallback generated thumbnail, and
in Opera, at least I can zoom the start page to get smaller items.

For me, the most important would be to set a static grid size, because the responsiveness kills the whole feature. Independently from the window size, I want to know the place of each item, because that's the point of the speed attribute. If I have to search the item, because the grid reflows itself, then the most important feature is lost. Of course, miniature screenshots don't help to find the desired item.

fsproede

@nekomajin said in What is stopping you from using V all the time?:

There are great extensions in the Opera addon catalog, which can not be found in the Chrome catalog. I don't want to spend time looking for replacements.

A lot of them also work with Vivaldi.

https://www.howtogeek.com/210925/how-to-install-chrome-extensions-in-opera-and-opera-extensions-in-chrome/

Nekomajin

@fsproede
I know. But I don't want to install and update them manually.

Dropmans

Private tabs. That's the only thing.
The ability to mix normal and private tabs in 1 window is something I used all the time in Opera 12 and later in FireFox. Shame this it still not present in Vivaldi.

nearbaskara

Can't drag my bookmark that in "more bookmark" button.
Sometimes my cursor is gone.
no Turbo/Data saver extension for my greedy internet provider
no mobile browser and sync
Website Icons in tab bar are gone if there are sounds, it's really annoying really.
favicons in tab bar and address bar are still messy.

to be honest this browser has a lot of potential. Gonna wait till it fixed all of that and I will use it erryday.

Merowinger

I can't stand the bookmark manager. It's not possible to sort a single bookmark folder alphabetically.
That's really annoying and I would make Vivaldi to my secondary browser if this would work properly.

Chas4

I am missing the custom searches that were in Opera Presto (it is what got friends and family to switch to Opera), I have 20 some.

Strangiato

I need alphabetical sorting in bokmarks library too.
Sync search engines would be nice too.

Pesala

Just use manual sorting and use drag and drop. Otherwise, sort all bookmarks alphabetically. Vote for this feature request:

@luetage said in Feature requests for Vivaldi 1.14:

sergio.brighenti

Boot time, response time when loading tabs, open new, switch tabs between different windows is much slower compared to chrome.
Can't select text in the page and drag it in the tabs area to search that in a new tab, I use this feature a lot.
When a slow page is loading, you don't have any visual feedback.

TbGbe · Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 7.1.3518.4

@acidinmyfridge said in What is stopping you from using V all the time?:

would love speed dial thumbnails like opera has, the simple url name on coloured background.

Have a look at the @D0J0P thumbnails thread
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/17568/i-made-a-huge-thumbnail-pack

Pesala

I never noticed 5 seconds being too long to start Vivaldi.
You can select text on the page, right-click, and search with in a new tab.
The Reload icon on the Address Bar changes to a Stop icon while a page is loading

LawrenceScafuri

@btabke The design, which feels antiquated when compared to that of Chrome, Firefox, and all the other modern browsers.

MatthiasSaihttam

@btabke Developer debug features. I use Safari as my primary browser because I love the appearance and functionality of the Web Inspector, the thing that shows up on a right click > Inspect Element. I'm a web developer, and having the unchanged Chromium Web Inspector (complete with "What's new in Chrome") is a big turn of for me, not just from Vivaldi, but from all Chromium browsers. That being said, on Linux or Windows, where Safari isn't an option, I use the big V.

Caine

@lawrencescafuri I could not phrase that in a less actionable way if I tried. Could you qualify that?

sergio.brighenti

@pesala
But, when chrome starts instantly, and firefox starts in less than 2 secs, the 5-6 seconds of vivaldi are too much for me.
The second its a feature that I found on almost all browsers, except vivaldi.
The last one, yeah, but is not evident if the tab is not selected, you no have any animation or visual feedback.

luetage

@sergio-brighenti It's all about priorities. If startup time is crucial to you, you should probably use another browser. No need to argue any of this, it's just a rundown of reason why people don't use Vivaldi as their main browser.

Steffie

<<as she commences another irritating soliloquy>>

G'day, Self, any idea why some people persist in prioritising browser launch speed [with differences measured in a few seconds ffs] over stuff that actually enables & expands one's productivity with a browser? Why some people seem to think that the point of a browser is merely to open so fast that you haven't even got to your desk yet, no matter that once you're there, the browser is so ugly & useless that it offends both your sense of aesthetics & your desire for productivity? That they're so invested in cutting off their nose to spite their face that they choose to persist with inferior browsers merely so they can persuade themselves of the hugeness of their dangly-bits by having a browser that they think starts fast?

Hi back at ya, Self. No, i have no idea at all about why such people think this way. Also why they seem incapable of performing a valid comparison, like maybe a Kepner-Tregoe decision analysis matrix or similar, whereby they list all the features & functions a browser should have, categorise them into Musts & Wants, assign a weighting to each item, score each candidate browser against each item, tally the weighted scores, & arrive at the best browser for themselves based on facts & logic. Some people are weird, huh, by just fetishising one parameter only, & a trivial one at that?

Yeah, weird indeed. Anyway, no time to dally here with such rhetorical philosophising, Self, i need to go get my morning coffee. Then i think i'll come back & open a few browsers 68 times. Once i've finished that vital task, i'll record the results in my Notes Web Panel including with some screenshots, stack the applicable tabs & name the stack, tile some of my other tab-stacks, flick over to my Deep Purple theme, check the weather forecast in another of my handy WPs, & coz they say that a change is as good as a holiday i might move my top tab row over to be a rhs tab column for today, & tomorrow have it down the bottom. No time to mention multiple other factors of course, coz those other browsers aren't going to open themselves 68 times; gotta get onto that important task...

OK, seeya Self, have a good'un.