Window panel and file download improvements – Vivaldi Browser Snapshot 1.13.997.3

YamiryuuZero

YEAH! NEW SNAPSHOT! FINALLY!
Gee, guys, you know I'm addicted to snapshots. If you stop giving me my weekly dose, I'll have abstinence crisis. XD

I hear your warning. I understand your warning. I don't care about your warning!
I've already downloaded and am currently testing!

I really love how you guys implemented those changes to downloads. That's going to make the UI much more appealing and less complicated for me!

I hope this delay caused by Chromium changes has been dealt with, because I don't know if I'll be able to survive one more month of not having updates. I need professional help.

Ayespy

@yamiryuuzero said in Window panel and file download improvements – Vivaldi Browser Snapshot 1.13.997.3:

I hope this delay caused by Chromium changes has been dealt with, because I don't know if I'll be able to survive one more month of not having updates. I need professional help.

Not entirely, but closer to the end than to the beginning. If it were wholly dealt with, you would not see the "known issues" and the automatic update would have been enabled.

Steffie

@cqoicebordel: Can you pls clarify this change? Are you saying that Chromium 62, & hence now this new V-SS, have Flash fully disabled NOW, ie, no user-intervention can re-activate it? If so, that would explain why none of my fav sites that use Flash will now work in the new SS. If this is the new normal, i will have to use another browser to access those sites... PITA. Yes, yes, i share everyone else's dislike of Flash, & also want to be rid of it, BUT until some of the sites i rely on every day, get the message, users like me who can't/won't simply abandon those sites [that would be cutting off my nose to spite my face] would simply have to use another browser.

Steffie

@rexfahrer: I confirm. My default UI = 85%, which still works. However PW is 100%, = ugh!
Worse though: closing the PW also closed my main V window... helluva shock!

EDIT:
Strewth Steffie, can you not read & absorb?

Known issues
Crashes associated with the private window

rsaeks

Looks like the bug on Mac where viewing the Search settings only displayed the colored circle next to the search provider has been addressed. In the previous snapshot the icons for set default / edit / delete next to a search engine were missing and all three circles were indistinguishable in their actions.

Steffie

Congrats to V-Devs for surviving the major rewrite.

My initial SS launch momentarily shocked me, as it had forgotten my Use Native Window setting... it's so very long since i last saw Vivaldi "undressed" that it momentarily floored me, til i realised what had happened.

I can confirm that the Known Issue of "Crashes associated with the private window" also applies to the Linux rpm version, sadly. Closing Private Window closes all V windows... gasp.

Wrt the "new" Windows Panel... it's not new for me, given i've been using it since it first appeared in Experiments. Sadly, now as then, Pinned-Stacks are still not seen in the WP; for me this reduces the WP benefit by >50%. Pls Devs, allow the WP to see & work with ALL tabs, irrespective of their disposition.

Pesala

@saudiqbal I noticed that once, but now it's working normally. If you can figure out a reliable recipe submit a Bug Report

ROTFL

@cqoicebordel: Add this to request list please

Kocho

with this and the previous build mouse gestures do not work

Kocho

@kocho: pfff, I meant in pop-up windows

iAN CooG

@kocho said in Window panel and file download improvements – Vivaldi Browser Snapshot 1.13.997.3:

@kocho: pfff, I meant in pop-up windows

mouse gestures never worked with popup windows, not only in these 2 Snapshots

iAN CooG

@pesala said in Window panel and file download improvements – Vivaldi Browser Snapshot 1.13.997.3:

@ian-coog Try one like this, with lots of comments. Ctrl + Scrollwheel to zoom in/out or mouse gesture to scroll down/up.

no idea what's wrong for you, everything works for me on that youtube page, mouse gestures, ctrl-scrollwheel zooms in and out, and "search with" works

espen

@pesala: @pesala said:

@neltherion Tab stacks are shown in the window panel, and can be ungrouped. Tabs selected in the panel can be stacked. Pinned tabs are shown as a single entry. There's not yet a menu option to group tabs by URL. One must do that from the Tab Bar.

The "Pinned tabs" shown here are actually a folder. So all the pinned tabs will be available inside. The folder is kept when there are no pinned tabs so that you can drag-to-pin tabs onto it.

Pesala

@espen said in Window panel and file download improvements – Vivaldi Browser Snapshot 1.13.997.3:

The "Pinned tabs" shown here are actually a folder.

Expand all folders does not show the tabs included in the Tab Stack. The "folder" cannot be renamed either. Some work is needed to make this more useful. My "Pinned Tabs" folder is actually a tab-stack of pinned tabs.

neltherion

@pesala: Thanks! It'd be great if we could group and ungroup tabs by click of a button in this panel... This would give tremendous control over a collection of more than 50 tabs... especially in those situations when you have so much tabs you don't even know how to get to those tabs for that specific URL...

Rexfahrer

@ugly: Today this happened to me, too. I opened one tab in the background and closed the current one so it normally should switch to the one opened in background and got the grey Vivaldi logo.
And I think I can reproduce it reliably: You have to close the active tab while the other one is still not loading but is waiting for a response of the website. So a slow internet connection might be useful to reproduce this

Windows 7 64-bit with Vivaldi 64-bit

edit: I reported this, VB-34035.

nutcracker

I'm sorry to say that this snapshot is a disaster! By looking at the 'known issues' I didn't find anything particularly alarming and I decided to install it! I observed that it does not remember the previous browser window position and size, but...hey, this is a minor problem! Then I open some tabs and tried to 'scroll' through them by using the wheel mouse gesture - Vivaldi crashed in a way that I have never seen before: the browser window went grey without toolbar or anything else, just a grey parallelogram! I closed Vivaldi by using the task manager! I tried again with the same results - then I experienced some other peculiar crashes without any apparent reason! Thank God I use regular backups, because Vivaldi does not support 'downgrading' to a previous version and I had to completely uninstall and re-install the browser! Please do not release new versions (even by disabling auto-update) before thorough investigation of the BASIC functionality - perhaps you should consider 'installation unrolling' to the previous version or even having two versions at the same time and the possibility of selection between the two and, consequently, the un-installation of one of them after testing!

Rexfahrer

@steffie Thanks, I reported the zoom problem, VB-34036. Regarding the crash I seem to be lucky, didn't experience such problems. But I'm using Windows 7 and not Linux.

nutcracker

Addition to my previous post: When Ι installed the previous version and restored the 'default' folder, everything (extensions, passwords, thumbnails etc.) fell into place and everything worked as they should - in contrast with a one of my previous attempts a year ago when, after restoring, I had to re-install all the extensions from scratch!

Steffie

@steffie To answer my own question... the solution was simple [but isn't everything, once you know?]. All i needed to do on each of the still-only-flashplayer sites i routinely use, was use the Address Bar Site Info drop-down menu & mark said sites as "Always allow on this site" for "Flash". These sites have never needed me to do that before, hence i did not immediately think of this today for the new V. However now that i have realised, & done it, V-SS is again going gangbusters for me.