Excessive buffering with various video formats
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Computer: Windows 10 with all the latest updates.
Videos keep buffering every few seconds, whether it's YouTube, a webinar, or other types of videos that I don't know which format they're made in. Any video that buffers in Vivaldi, has no problem in other browsers. Is this a known bug? If so, any idea when it will be fixed?
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@joelyoung said in Excessive buffering with various video formats:
Videos keep buffering every few seconds, whether it's YouTube, a webinar, or other types of videos that I don't know which format they're made in.
But is not that good? Videos loading faster without gaps?
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@tchelows It is not good. Every 5-10 seconds the video stops and waits for the data to catch up. It is definitely not good like that.
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try disabling hw video decode, at least for me on home pc solves the meaningless occasional buffering on yt.
vivaldi://flags/#disable-accelerated-video-decodehttp://iancoog.altervista.org/
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@ian-coog said in Excessive buffering with various video formats:
try disabling hw video decode, at least for me on home pc solves the meaningless occasional buffering on yt.
vivaldi://flags/#disable-accelerated-video-decodeI believe that worked! Thank you!!
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I'm happy for you and to know that I'm not the only one suffering with issues with HW acceleration active in Vivaldi. It strangely enough works way better with SW rendering, which seems an oxymoron these days, especially having a good nVidia gfx card in the PC.
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I've found that it's also good to set vivaldi://flags/#enable-gpu-rasterization to Disabled.
Disabling only Accelerated Video Decode fixes my buffering issue but still has stuttering/tearing issues. Disabling only GPU Rasterization fixes stuttering/tearing, but doesn't fix buffering - it only reduces it. Disabling both Accelerated Video Decode and GPU Rasterization fixes all the issues.
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Thanks @binarysplit, I'll try that!
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I have been a Chrome user for a long time now but recently switched over to Vivaldi. My first impression is not that good though, when it comes to video. I am having lots of buffering issues and have tried all above settings. I have even disabled 'Hardware Acceleration When Available', but nothing helps to be honest. Especially Twitch is really bad sometimes.
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@Larsen82 said in Excessive buffering with various video formats:
I have been a Chrome user for a long time now but recently switched over to Vivaldi. My first impression is not that good though, when it comes to video. I am having lots of buffering issues and have tried all above settings. I have even disabled 'Hardware Acceleration When Available', but nothing helps to be honest. Especially Twitch is really bad sometimes.
Twitch is the worst when it comes to buffering. Right now I have to use Firefox for twitch and other streaming services.. not good.
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Twitch is the worst when it comes to buffering
@Larsen82 I agree with you, for that reason mainly I hate watching streams and recordings on Twitch, luckily the guys I follow after streaming also upload to YT so I can have a better service for non-realtime video streams.
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@iAN-CooG said in Excessive buffering with various video formats:
Twitch is the worst when it comes to buffering
@Larsen82 I agree with you, for that reason mainly I hate watching streams and recordings on Twitch, luckily the guys I follow after streaming also upload to YT so I can have a better service for non-realtime video streams.
But everything on Twitch and other streaming services in general works 100% better on FireFox for me though
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@ian-coog said in Excessive buffering with various video formats:
try disabling hw video decode, at least for me on home pc solves the meaningless occasional buffering on yt.
vivaldi://flags/#disable-accelerated-video-decodeI too can confirm that this works. Exactyl since Vivaldi version 4.x i had the very same infinite buffering issues for whatever i streamed so it had to be a global problem. Also, it was immediately fixes when using Vivaldi 3.8 again or another browser, wether Chromium or not (for example: Opera). After disabling this function, all streaming is fixed for me. Reproduced this on three different and independent systems by now and counting.
Seems, wether something is broken regarding hardware video acceleration since 3.8 or we do have an issue with video card drivers (NVidias latest here) or Windows itself maybe; the both latter had so much issues in the last months that i had to fix one problem after another.
Reported this several times as bug by now and hopefully the next version will handle this better if it is caused by the browser itself.
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@linguaoccultus Please read https://quhno.vivaldi.net/2018/12/01/how-write-a-good-bug-report-for-video-bugs/ and tell us more.
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Hello!
I know this is very old by now but I never received a notification back then. However, the solution was found meanwhile:
Disable limited background FPS in NVidia/AMD GPU driver settings (at least using an application profile for Vivaldi)
Found this on the web by chance while many, many others are reported the same issue meanwhile. Have tried around many times with the drivers settings myself being aware of the massive hardware acceleration usage and that drivers settings could affect this also, but secceeded.
Testing around know but it seems this at least makes it MUCH better.
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@linguaoccultus said in Excessive buffering with various video formats:
Disable limited background FPS in NVidia/AMD GPU driver settings
Special optimisations or game settings in GPU driver control panel should always be checked and disabled for Vivaldi program.
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This has nothing to do especially with "games" since other applications using the GPU (as browser like Vivaldi and other Chromium browsers using hardware acceleration) are technically the same.
However, many settings do make sense even for dekstop application to extend your hardwares lifecycle, limiting heat and power consumption as in this example. Also, they DO make other issues for quite more application on the other hand when disabled.
Excluding Vivaldi with an application profile from them is enough but only a workaround. This needs to be checked and fixed since it should not be this way. Did report it in already. Maybe this even goes down to the Chromium backend.
Just wanted to solve this thread and communicate the fix, that's all.
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This becomes annoyingly strange ... and even stranger!
I found out, meanwhile, that this is not solved by the driver setting mentioned above, but I still think it is related to them for the reason, that this is only happening in Vivaldi and no other application or browser. Also, I bought a notebook lately and it has a AMD Ryzen 5 5500U CPU with internal GPU (so, an APU as AMD calls them) and with the very same settings and extensions, the video buffering issues are NOT happening there, while I can confirm them on several Nvidia-based systems.
Before someone asks for it: I had the opportunity to completely reinstall some of the affected systems from scratch and also did not use any backups for the browser, but it is happening again.
AND: Since the last major version, the browser now freezes completely when playing videos!
I can fix it by just minimizing and restoring the browser window and the affected tab then is mostly closed. This also happens on any given video on any given platform as before.@DoctorG : I had several bug reports of that sort over the last years, never anything changed and never did I receive an answer or reaction.
Any ideas left? What informations could help here? Have a support request running with Nvidia but after some resonses I am still waiting that they understand the problem ...
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The solution was setting VSync to "on" from "quick" for the freezes in the GPU driver settings.
The reason I am using those settings for the global profile simply is to avoid to have them set by game, which is an insane effort. Also, setting all the same stuff for each application independently makes no sense at all. And there is no other way of setting them for all applications as the global profile. If one is not working for a given application, I instead add an application profile and revert the specific setting there for this single application. I know no better way of doing so. Anyway, that's off-topic.
Experimenting now with the prior issue of stuttering/buffering again after this much more serious one is out of the way and just wanted to report the solution in if anyone needs the info.
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@linguaoccultus said in Excessive buffering with various video formats:
I had several bug reports of that sort over the last years, never anything changed and never did I receive an answer or reaction.
Please give me the VB-xxxxx bug numbers of your reports, i will check the state.
