Reader mode configuration panel – Snapshot 1.11.880.3
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When using the reader mode, the start of the article is missing on some websites (content in a h2 tag)
ie: http://www.liberation.fr/futurs/2017/06/21/canal-a-arrete-de-payer-certains-producteurs-audiovisuels_1578257 -
This snapshot has created havoc with my tabs. Some tabs are superimposed on top of others and all mixed up. The add tab "+" sign, is hidden beneath another tab so impossible to select. I'm surprised no one else reported it, might be because i have pinned tabs? Windows 7, 32 bit.
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@Guardrail68 said in Reader mode configuration panel – Snapshot 1.11.880.3:
Any other web pages that you can suggest
There are plenty. Just look for the Reader View icon in the URL field. If it's not there, the mode is not available, e.g. on the BBC News Index pages.
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Vivaldi does not take focus when link openedThis is broken with Win 8.1 Enterprise, b9600 & 1.11.880.3 (Official Build) (32-bit)
This is broken with Win 10 Pro, 1703 b15063.413 & 1.11.880.3 (Official Build) (64-bit)
The Win 10 is a home PC and the Win 8.1 is a corporate laptop
Therefore, I can likely eliminate the OS and if 32 or 64-bit version of Vivaldi is at fault
Same issue with Outlook 2013 and Word 2016
Therefore, I can likely eliminate the application
Is anyone else seeing this issue, am I the only one??
If I install a new Vivaldi build it will work for any number of times then abruptly stop working
What is going on there??
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@Pesala I don't use the panels or even have them displayed so this is useless to me.
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@TianlanSha I also keep the Panel Toolbar hidden, but since the Reader View only needs to be configured once, it is hardly an issue. Go to a site where the Reader View icon is available in the URL field, open the panels, configure the view, and close the panels.
In my opinion, it would be better to have this in Settings, Web pages, but there is no reason to claim that it is useless to you as it is.
@Pesala said in Reader mode configuration panel – Snapshot 1.11.880.3:
The position of the Reader View Panel icon seems odd to me. If it's a setting, then it should be in the Settings dialogue. If it's a panel, then why is not at the top after the history panel?
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@Pesala Maybe reader settings should have their own entry in the settings page instead? I don't wanna sound like I'm shitting on Vivaldi, because I'm still here providing what I believe to be feedback and I want it to succeed for what it is, but that just sounds like bad design decision to me. Or maybe inconsistent is a more accurate word?
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@ Pesala Reader mode configuration is interestingly not persistent for me on osx, probably a bug.
@TianlanSha How is going into settings any faster than doing it from the panel? And you forget one important detail: The settings will occupy the window, if you open them in a tab by default. At this point you don't see the changes to the style of the reader view. I would assume the Vivaldi devs have put more thought into this than you...
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@TianlanSha said in Reader mode configuration panel – Snapshot 1.11.880.3:
I don't wanna sound like I'm shitting on Vivaldi
Then you should not use hyperbole saying that it is useless when it is clearly not useless — just not quite as well designed as it might be.
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@luetage said in Reader mode configuration panel – Snapshot 1.11.880.3:
The settings will occupy the window, if you open them in a tab by default.
That is also true if you're editing the Appearance settings or Themes. If someone is opening the Settings in a tab they clearly don't care about having live feedback to changes that they are making.
I hope that the developers are open to suggestions from users on making this a little easier to use. It will do, but it's not ideal yet, and probably would not take much effort to change. The existing problems with using a Panel for Reader View/Mode already need some fixes, which won't be needed if they are in settings:
- An entry in settings to assign a shortcut to the Reader View panel
- An entry to assign a mouse gesture.
- Renaming of the tooltip in the URL field from Reader View to Reader Mode, or renaming of the Panel icon tooltip to Reader View.
- Adding the Reader View/Mode panel to the Alt F7 shortcut to "Open Next Panel," and Alt Shift F7 shortcut to "Open Previous Panel." Currently, the Reader Mode panel is not included in panel cycling.
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Cursor not behaving as in the past. Sometimes the cursor disappears completely. This is a
major frustration.As far as reader mode goes, I don't use it very often. But putting the settings in with the rest
of the settings would be best imo. As another user put it it's "set it and forget it". Other settings
are just the same, "set it and forget it". If I need to change a setting I use my trusty keyboard
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@luetage Does faster makes things better if they are all over the place?
Also:- going to the current reader settings, requires you to press F4 and click once to bring up the reader settings
- if the reader settings are in the regular settings, you have to press Alt+P and then click once to bring up the reader settings
so same thing, also the regular settings have a search box you can use to find them
When I originally saw the update it talked about some "panels" which I didn't know what they were. I always referred to this as a "sidebar" and I immediately started looking around what's a panel.
This is your design flaw right there.
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@Pesala Then it should be better designed in the future after this feedback. After all Vivaldi showed up a few years ago, it should be the one with the best design given all the lessons learnt from all the other browsers for the last 20 years.
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@TianlanSha It's a matter of preference. Many people have panel enabled by default, after all it's a core functionality of Vivaldi. Just because you personally don't like it, doesn't make it a design flaw. But yeah, if many users feel the way you do, I'd imagine they could put the reader view theming options into settings additionally. Let's see what happens.
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@TianlanSha said in Reader mode configuration panel – Snapshot 1.11.880.3:
When I originally saw the update it talked about some "panels" which I didn't know what they were. I always referred to this as a "sidebar" and I immediately started looking around what's a panel.
This is your design flaw right there.
They have always been referred to as panels. If you've got the wrong name in your head then the flaw is not with Vivaldi...
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@mossman To be clear, Jon named them panels in Opera over twenty years ago. Other browsers have referred to things that appeared where panels appear (and have no similar function to panels) as "sidebars." IE, for example, did this. But in first, Opera, and now, Vivaldi, Panels have always been and will always be, panels.
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@luetage said in Reader mode configuration panel – Snapshot 1.11.880.3:
I'd imagine they could put the reader view theming options into settings additionally. Let's see what happens.
I don't think it's comfortable put reader view options in settings... maybe they can keep the option to show reader in urlbar and open its settings in a new tab/popup (eg: vivaldi://reader) with middle/right mouse click (left is used to trigger reader).
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@Hadden89 This has been suggested backstage as well. We'll see what happens.
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The new reader mode settings rock!