It’s time to do the right thing, Microsoft
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You won't ever get the US to go after monopolies as they used to do.
Corporations and money control EVERYTHING here that's why it is an oligarchy not capitalists.
People should have remembered that from IE having to de-link from OS. If not for EU doing lawsuit it NEVER would have been done. It's old saying Give a camel an inch in your tent he will eventually take a mile, the whole tent. Going on again it's all for show any meaningful regulation. -
This is not a problem here in Canada. MS does not try to change my browser. Maybe the European version does it tho' given the drubbing Europe has given MS for being a control freak that would be surprising!
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Did MS possibly do the right thing with the latest Insider build?
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/13840/windows-insider-builds-and-the-default-browser -
For me the default browser has been reset to Edge each and every time MS releases a significant Update.
There's been times when the "Default Applications" window has prevented me from changing it from Edge at all.
It happens for the video format associations too. MS, I never want to use "Films and TV"!
Also I am unable to change the email handler to Thunderbird, it just stays as "Mail".
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@rseiler said in It’s time to do the right thing, Microsoft:
Did MS possibly do the right thing with the latest Insider build?
https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/13840/windows-insider-builds-and-the-default-browserYes, I think I can confirm this now, since today another Insider build (15031) didn't touch Vivaldi.
So, look for this problem to disappear (for those not on Windows betas) as of the April 2017 Creators Update. Well, at least updates to that build once you have it installed.
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@nsane: It seems, then, than this issue happens with Major updates. This means that I will get my default browser switched in the Creators update, which will be around March/May.
But it does not happen in every single minor update.
Regardless, it does happen. I'll try to contact some Microsoft developers if this issue happens to me after installing the Creators update - thanks everyone for your feedback!!
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@whizzwr: MS was shit in Opera days. I don't want to sound like a shill, but MS has improved very, very much in these last 5 years. UWP is awesome. What they're doing with Windows 10 in general is pretty great and they're enabling a lot of people (like myself) to have a free Windows license if we're students or run a business.
Since they don't make the most money out of the OS (they're mostly cloud now), I'm predicting that they might considering bridging Linux some day, or even make a fork of it. They already have VS Code which is Open Source.
I support Jon regardless! I'm a fan
Come chat about Vivaldi in the unofficial Discord Server, we have an :olli: emoji: https://discord.gg/cs6bTDU
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Microsoft has never done the right thing for users or competitors.
The right thing for them to do was create a monopoly situation so they didn't have to do right thing and extort everyone in the process.
Just because Microsoft has been forced to change due to real competition in the mobile phone market where it has little influence, don't expect any favours in the PC market. -
People have been attacking Microsoft for 30 years. Sometimes it made sense. But this is just silly. It's not difficult to set one's defaults in Windows 10. Given the number of really annoying and just wrong things with Win10, why is setting a default getting any time at all?
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@wdjb said in It’s time to do the right thing, Microsoft:
People have been attacking Microsoft for 30 years. Sometimes it made sense. But this is just silly. It's not difficult to set one's defaults in Windows 10. Given the number of really annoying and just wrong things with Win10, why is setting a default getting any time at all?
It should also be trivial to retain a user's defaults and given microsoft's past is easily interpreted as an unnecessary deliberate hurdle.
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@wdjb: Actually, yes, sometimes it is. Sometimes Win10 will not even show you all of the relevant apps that could be default for a file or protocol, and not offer you to browse to them, either - but only offer "the store."
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In the early days, MS was forced by the EU Trade Commission to provide a neutral Browser selection utility in XP to avoid unfairly preference of IE compared to other Browsers. This is not only a technical question. Other (small) software manufacturers like Vivaldi needs a fairly chance to get new, non-technical skilled users.
What Microsoft do is contrary to this. If a user chooses Vivaldi or FF or Chrome or whatelse, and his OS re-sets Edge for Default one time, two times, more times, some user would say: Shut up, this Vivaldi or FF or Chrome does not working fine. I'm simply want to view "the Internet". So i can use Edge and i have my Rest.
Non-professional users are different from most of us. As i see every day in my job, non-pros goes often "the way of least resistance". Microsoft takes an unfair advantage from this fact. Intentional or as a collateral damage by software update mechanisms.
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I think Microsoft, instead of thinking "How do we make Edge better?", goes like, "How can we force Edge into more users?" Instead of improving their software, they spend development time on "improving" the parts of their OS that forces users into Edge.
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@NSANE said in It’s time to do the right thing, Microsoft:
@whizzwr: MS was shit in Opera days. I don't want to sound like a shill, but MS has improved very, very much in these last 5 years. UWP is awesome. What they're doing with Windows 10 in general is pretty great and they're enabling a lot of people (like myself) to have a free Windows license if we're students or run a business.
Since they don't make the most money out of the OS (they're mostly cloud now), I'm predicting that they might considering bridging Linux some day, or even make a fork of it. They already have VS Code which is Open Source.
I support Jon regardless! I'm a fan
Microsoft is only 'hugging up' to Linux because of the amount of Linux clients on their Azure program, which when Steve Ballmer was still in charge, 30% of their clients were Linux ones. Surely that's grown by now & that's the sole reason why today's CEO in Satya Nadella to come out & say 'We Love Linux'.
Of course he does, now that Ballmer is gone, more clients has signed up & we all love money. If Nadella truly 'loves' Linux, then he'd port the EOL OS's over for Linux devs to fork & patch/keep up to date. There would still be a market for XP, if only there were ways to fix the now 200+ missed patches that W7 & Vista received.
Anyone W10 user with a NVIDIA graphics card had best have Secunia PSI installed, as the latest bundle includes 'node.js' (a LInux Foundation product), like Java (if installed) & Flash Player, node.js is a plug in that needs to be kept up to date. The new NVIDIA driver bundle includes a version that's 3-4 releases behind. By chance, Microsoft bought themselves a Platinum membership to the Linux Foundation just months after Windows users were being shipped outdated Linux Foundation software.
If anything, Microsoft is simply using Linux to gain more control over Windows users. Windows 7 was Microsoft's best OS, and the pinnacle of Steve Ballmer's career. SInce then, it's been a mess, hundreds of millions of dollars were poured into Windows 8, while the World's #1 OS to this day doesn't have a real SP2. If anyone thinks that XP diehards were a problem, wait until 2020 when W7 reaches EOL, there'll be those running the OS for easily 2-3 more years & still have a 25% or higher market share after then.
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