Snapshot 1.0.385.5 - Changes to tab opening and closing behaviour
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Did not have the time to reed through all these comments. When will you add the functionality to tear tab from the tab bar so it becomes a stand lone Vivaldi window?
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For now, right-click on tab and send to "new window."
The answer as to when drag-out will be ready, that will be "when it's ready."
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I am starting to lose patience…
Vivaldi probably has the best vision of all browsers. But performance is such a huge let down that I am starting to doubt that things will change anytime soon if ever. It only takes a few minutes of using chrome or opera for one to notice what a huge advantage those have over Vivaldi in terms of snappiness.
I will be moving to Opera for now since I can no longer tolerate Vivaldi's sluggishness/random freezes/high cpu/disk usage and all the small performance related quirks that affect my browsing experience in a negative manner.
I will be keeping a close look on Vivaldi's development (as I always did since I found about the project) and will be hoping that things will improve
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Totally agree! If devs are planning to release the finał version soon, it's definitely the time to improve the performance. Unfortunaly it's still the biggest weak point of Vivaldi.
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Task-manager popup? I wish Vivaldi presented the task manager as a pop-up, not as a separate window. A separate window simply doesn't work when the Vivaldi window is in the full-screen mode on Mac OS X. (By "doesn't work", I mean that the task-manager window shows up in another desktop because the present desktop is exclusively occupied by the Vivaldi window.)
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Whenever someone says 'Performance', You know I'm bound to end up beneath his post!
Dude! I totally agree with you!
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Need for speed i guess.
They haven't release final yet so giving them some slack is OK.
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Just switching to the right from closed tab, no dependencies whatsoever. It was an option in Opera 12 that I still use.
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Man, you'd think after 36 different versions, that they would get the simple things right.
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I said this before. I'm not entirely honest how much more performance they can improve. It will improve, yes, but similar to how Chrome, Firefox, Edge or Opera works? I don't think so.
The reason why they can add so many features is because they used web technologies and I suspect the performance will never match something like C or C++ or the other languages on which the GUI is build for other browsers. This is why the Opera based on Chromium is also so snappy and Vivaldi which is also based on Chromium is not.
I totally understand what you say. Vivaldi loads pages fine, but the GUI is very sluggish in particular as it seems to slow down the more hours its open and the more data you have on it over time, its gets slower to load even basic things. Eventually with tons of tabs and Windows open the whole computer just tries to keep up running the browser. When you switch to Firefox or Chrome, its day and night and you feel the difference immediately on how fast and responsive everything is.
As much features as Vivaldi can build I'm not sure but this can be in the end what will hold Vivaldi back from its power users. A slow and laggy GUI. Other people that tried the same, like those building a web code editor on web technologies, people complained exactly about the same. There is just no way the technologies that Vivaldi powers can keep up with what powers the GUI on Firefox or Chrome, otherwise they would have chosen those web technologies as well. They probably did this to have a browser that works on all platforms, more a concept than anything else, but not running native code means its interface will always be slow unless somehow they pull out some magic trick I don't think this will change. And I say that with sadness of course.
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If you have multiple monitors and Vivaldi is running full screen on one, that is probably exactly what most people want. The task manager appearing in another window.
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Yes, detaching tabs is something they said will come eventually. This is the main thing I'm also waiting for.
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I too vote for magic. Also, since they've recently updated the Chromium build again, it's not so sluggish for me anymore. It's actually faster than other browsers. But some UI stuff is a little more sluggish, but I know it can be optimized.
Maybe they can find other web technologies, or update the current ones to make it faster and more resource efficient. What are the chances of that happening in the future?
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What are the chances of that happening in the future
Basing on my web knowledge (im a webdeveloper) - there isn't any chance for that.
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I deleted the topsites file and reloaded all my speed dials images. Not sure if it was this build or the last build I did it.
It worked for about a week without losing any. The last couple days the Speed Dial images have been starting to disappear. Not all of them. Seems like a few at a time.
They last longer than they used to. But they are still disappearing.
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Sorry, color blind or monitor? It's lime green I have no trouble but thanks. And also I agree with D0J0P but FIRST I have to be able to run it.
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Win7 64 bit, 8 Gig, 32 Viv
I had high hopes I found my SSD's problem of sluggishness with Viv. I had OO Defrag and a very old version of it, went to latest ( they don't move all files only the ones that are the worst fragmented) and at first it helped a LOT. That way the wear level isn't affected. Checked that with DiskInfo and actually gave me MORE life, NO I AM not a shill.
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Dude, DO NOT DEFRAG SSD disks! it's useless and, well… damages SSDs (as every write cycle = damage). The impression of improvement was false.
Also OO Defrag is crap software that damages SSDs even more (by autoscheduling defrags on computer idle) and can lead to random crashes (at least the version I've used). (Actually all OO software is crap).
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Same here.
I'm voting for magic.
