Snapshot 1.0.385.5 - Changes to tab opening and closing behaviour

Gort

One option I'd love is when opening a new tab from a middle-click on a link, that it can be set to switch to it. Currently, it opens the tab in the background. I know that if I press shift at the same time as middle-clicking, that it'll do what I want, but my past usage has always been to middle-click for a link to open in a new tab and switch to it without need to use the keyboard. Any chances that this can be an option when middle-clicking, like an option to reverse behaviour (shift and middle-click to open in the background)?

pgml

Nice snapshot! I like the new tab behaviour.

Some bugs I noticed:

the round corners on OS X are gone.
https://vivaldi.net/media/com_easysocial/photos/32913/91147/screen-shot-2016-02-02-at-20-49-07_large.png
the new icons are not really visible when using dark menubar on OS X
https://vivaldi.net/media/com_easysocial/photos/32913/91146/screen-shot-2016-02-02-at-20-49-00_large.png

gorg

Sorry, I don't understand your argument about me staying with the classic Opera is odd. I've stayed with Opera for many reasons. And I have been accustomed to its way so much that I find it difficult to look at this tab placement and behaviour as normal and standard. I am happy that Vivaldi also thinks the classic Opera was a good thing. It still has ways to go and fix/add things but I hope it doesn't turn eventually into Chrome.

jaxtraw

Mine has been stalling at that for several snapshots now. They always complete when I resume the donwnload. Bit of an odd bug.

Ayespy

"I hope it doesn't turn eventually into Chrome." All indications are that it will do rather the reverse. Although more "Chrome-like" options will become available, the ability to structure image, form and function to be totally UNLIKE Chrome will only increase.

Gort

I meant that it was odd that one of the reasons why you've stuck with Opera 11 is because of an option that you dislike being set as default, despite the fact that it can be changed to do it the way that you want it done. It seems odd that a few seconds to change an option has kept you with Opera 11.

However, I do agree with you that it shouldn't restrict itself into aping Chrome (which it currently isn't doing), but as long as it gives us options to customise its behaviour, then I'm fine.

fpqc

No, I mean that when you have a tab selected, there should be an option to half-brightness highlight all of the related tabs. For instance, suppose you have tab X_0, with tabs X_1,…,X_n that were spawned from tab X, and a tab Y to the right of tab X_0 before spawning the X_i. Then suppose that tab X_1 was dragged to the right of tab Y. If you then activate tab Y, then tab X_1 and close tab X_1, you will unexpectedly end up at some tab X_i.

That is, there is no visual indicator of what "related tab group" you are currently in if the related tabs are moved around. So my proposal would be to have some kind of visual indicator that you are in a group of related tabs, and that when you close one, you will stay within the group. This could be a slightly brighter/darker shade than the active tab, but slightly darker/brighter (respectively) than an inactive tab.

Eruzo

First of all thanks for the new build.

I noticed that in this build using the middle mouse button on a bookmark folder (in the bookmark sidebar) opens all bookmarks in the folder, and also all bookmarks in subfolders. The previous behaviour was to only open those in the folder the middle mouse button was used on. Is this a change or a bug and if it is a change, is there a way to get the old behaviour back? I can't seem to find a setting for it.

kq79

Bring back "Right of Current Tab" , please.

Pesala

The Opera team liked your idea of Mute Tabs so much that they copied it in Opera 35 released today.

ugly

Mine has been doing the same. I'd say it started some time around Beta 2. Maybe earlier.

D0J0P

Why would they add an option and then take away an option? I thought they were all about options.

dragonmastr

Sweet! I've been advocating that the tabs needed to work like it does in other browsers, so it's nice to see this implemented! Also nice to see VB-11903 squashed, it was kind of getting annoying. Keep those bug fixes coming!

D0J0P

Yeah, and they added a "mute other tabs" option in the context menu, which is actually really nice. I wish Vivaldi did that too.

ugly

@den_po:

I don't like new "Next To Related Tabs" option, I need "Right of Current Tab"!

I agree (obviously there should still be an option for those that like the related tab).

I think the use scenario is, say you have a webmail tab open all the time, like the Vivaldi webmail page. Then you open 20 pages from your speed dial and close the speed dial page.

Each time you close one of the 20 pages you opened from speed dial, it will switch back to the Vivaldi webmail tab (because it was the last activated and there are no parent tabs). This creates 20 extra clicks I need to do when I want to view the 20 tabs I just opened. For my use scenario, I'd like to keep the Vivaldi webmail tab open and not switch back to it, but browse through the 20 tabs I opened from left to right.

Witcher

First thought: "OMG, this tab closing was SO unnerving, they fixed it!" Quick look: "Dammit, they ALMOST fixed it…" Guys, is it really so much trouble to add "Just activate next in line" in "When closing a tab" options? It's simple solution and best for many users. What you added this time is the second best option.

Anyway, you are making very fast progress, big THANK YOU! Any chance you will add possibility to view at least some basic information about picture (resolution, format, size) after right click on image?

ahoj1234

oh… so track all tabs origin? (looking for some type 'X_0' and tabs opened from that one?)... I can see that some would love to know but that's not me tbh. I can also imagine some performance issues when it go deeper like X_0.3.1.2.2.5 (tree structure - the last tab's origin relation with X_0, imagine a family looking for Adam and Eve there). In general some ppl do use more than 10, 100 tabs... looking for domain origin is more natural and easier I guess.

So I'd love to see visually detached tabs which are similar by domain more than by an origin tab…

vijaykdotcom

Vivaldi Changing OS because it was messing with Vivaldi.

Vivaldi fan award!!

jon

Guys, we will add a separate option for this, but today you can turn off gestures fully.

Cheers,
Jon.

vijaykdotcom

Also, 'Switch to New tab immediately' option pleaseee.

I usually go through a list of search results, go 'right click+open in new tab', 'right click+open in new tab', 'right click+open in new tab'….... and then open the tabs at leisure.

I could achieve that by doing ctrl+click on each link but my left hand is always busy feeding me chips. :twisted: