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Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality
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@Catweazle
Hm, I get completely different results:
Ad blocking 96%
Tracking Protection: Detect
Anyway, it's getting interesting at the point when Chromium stop the support of V2 extensions and how far the Vivaldi ad blocker is then, for example script integration. -
@mib2berlin, we'll see, but I think that the inbuild blocker won't be affected. But well possible that Google won't allow extension which block its trackers in the store. This is maybe the reason because uBOL don't have, because it goes against the interests of Googles business model.
As said in another thread, in question security and privacy I don't trust the Chrome store anymore, since even scripts (related to YT) from a userscript manager were deleted some time ago which I installed direct as extension because of this. Google can't access locally stored scripts and files in my PC, but those pointing to the store. If Google gut or delete extension there, they are also crippled or deleted in Vivaldi. -
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Why on earth is vivaldi basing its code on decisions made and controlled by google? What a disappointment.
Guess this is my last post here, because honestly, making ublock origin disfunctional is a really OBVIOUS play by corporate capitalists, and trust me, like with elon and trump, or the entire AUKUS NATO war machine for that matter; they do not have our well-being in mind, they're sociopaths who could not care less about humanity or our future on earth. -
@liefde, which other would you use? Mv2 will die sooner or later, yes or yes, and with this also uBO Mv2. Currently Every browser on the market depends direct or indirect on Google, Firefox even more than Vivaldi, or on other big corporations (Apple, M$...). Depending the use of an browser only on an extension don't make sense.
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@liefde said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
Why on earth is vivaldi basing its code on decisions made and controlled by google? What a disappointment.
Guess this is my last post here, because honestly, making ublock origin disfunctional is a really OBVIOUS play by corporate capitalists, and trust me, like with elon and trump, or the entire AUKUS NATO war machine for that matter; they do not have our well-being in mind, they're sociopaths who could not care less about humanity or our future on earth.Vivaldi is based on chromium which is open source most pushed code comes from google directly , making a browser from scratch is a GIANT task , theres basicly only Safari ( apple ) , Firefox ( Mozilla ) , and Chromium ( google ) , Theres a entirely new one in the works ( Ladybird ) Roughly 2026 Dev Build Release.
Vivaldi and most companys simply dont have the funding or time to develope Multiple YEARS a new Webbrowser from the ground up.
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Please keep manifest v2 I beg you, I love your browser don't make me change it
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@Spike59, Vivaldi keeps Nv2 until it's possible, but like also all other browser it has to change to Mv3 sooner or later, So changing to another browser because of the Mv2 end, don't make sense, it's only an temporary solution.
The tecnology change and also the handling of cookies and Mv2 it's end of life, same as Mv1 in 2013.>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@Catweazle I can switch to firefox or brave which has decided to keep the manifest v2 even after the end of support, I personally use addons that require mv2 only, some addons can't simply work with mv3 because of limitation or so called "security" made by google, we all know the reason behind those changes but that's another story. Why change something was perfectly working all those years unless there are money involved behind it
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@Spike59 we can only wait and see what will happen. Perhaps, Firefox (and brave?) will support MV2 for a bit more, but not forever. The problem is: with big G out of the games (with about 60% of share) the "legacy addons" will updated less and likely tested even less, as devs will be mostly forced to focus on the "reworked V3", if any.
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@Team_Vivaldi Will you take this into consideration: https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/772132 ?
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@ThePfromtheO even though feature parity with ubo/abp ruleset is imho more important atm
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I decided to jump to UBOLite a month or two ago (wanted to test drive it so I know if it's suitable to switch on my wife's profile when the time comes). I have to say that it has worked perfectly fine for me in "optimal mode". I also have the Vivaldi default blocker settings and I haven't had any ads coming through.
Except in private mode - found out you have to set an extension option to let it work there, for some reason.
I note that it has "element zapper" - which I haven't needed yet - but that sounds like the picker @ThePfromtheO seems to want so badly.
TLDR: UBOLite seems to do the job so I am not worried about Mv3 ending.
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@mossman said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
note that it has "element zapper" - which I haven't needed yet - but that sounds like the picker @ThePfromtheO seems to want so badly.
But it doesn't have Android support, from what I know so far.
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I note that it has "element zapper"...
It is the same "Element zapper" that is in uBO:
The problem it has, unlike the “Element picker”, is that it is momentary as long as it does not reload the page. That is to say, it is useless.
"The element zapper can temporarily remove elements on a web page without creating new filters. The element picker can permanently remove elements on a web page by using it to create a network or cosmetic filter."
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@Evono said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
Theres a entirely new one in the works ( Ladybird ) Roughly 2026 Dev Build Release.
The last I heard (from them) is that 2028 is the target stable release date and that will just be for desktop Mac and Linux (previously I thought it was 2027). It shows how hard it is to develop a new browser from scratch that uses its own engine.
It's similar with search, which is why one of the DOJ's proposed remedies in the Google antitrust case is for them to make their web index generally available. Then competing search engines can innovate on top of that, using their own algorithms. This was also a suggestion made several years ago by Dr Robert Epstein, mainly to address liberal political bias in Google search. (Dr Epstein is a liberal himself, btw.)
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@mossman said in Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality:
I decided to jump to UBOLite a month or two ago (wanted to test drive it so I know if it's suitable to switch on my wife's profile when the time comes). I have to say that it has worked perfectly fine for me in "optimal mode". I also have the Vivaldi default blocker settings and I haven't had any ads coming through.
Does that combination also work to nuke YouTube's anti-ad blocker?
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@pilis01
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Only updating the script would fix that.
There are also others who take care to update the code to continue watching YT without problems:
MPC-BE player nightly builds:
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@pilis01
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On desktop YT without problems with the SMplayer (also work with other streaming sites).
