Manifest v3 update: Vivaldi is future-proofed with its built-in functionality

DoctorG

I miss documentation which rules are supported by Vivaldi Blocker.
Missing at https://help.vivaldi.com/developers/

Next year, with Manidest3 no features of uBlockOrigin anymore, and Vivaldi Blocker needs more attention by dev team.

Catweazle

@DoctorG, well, at least, with the dead of uBO in 2025 all browsers will have problems if they don't have an inbuild working blocker, even if they still support v2, because v2 blockers won't work anymore as they sshould after June 2025. Because of this Vivaldi and other browser with an inbuild blocker will have an advantage, even if the blocker isn`t so powerfull as the current uBO (also Mozilla is struggling with this, working on a own approach)
June 2025 for sure isn't the end of Vivaldi, maybe even the opposite.
We'll see

schroedingershund

For me, Vivaldi's built-in blocker isn't perhaps the best-you-can-find but

"best you can find" is a moving target
built-in doesn't make you depend on 3rd parties (which can cease to update or exist at any point in time)
Vivaldi is a low-barrier start for unexperienced users who probably just started to become aware of privacy stuff and worry about extensions and things
the best mix of browser features and privacy feature you can currently get in a single "download and install" webbrowser

In other words, those who aren't satisfied with Vivaldi and know better will certainly be willing (and able!) to use a different browser and a different blocker.

Just my 2ct. Cheers, Thomas

DoctorG

@schroedingershund And i experienced while testing the last days with uBlock+Badger the loading is slower compared to Vivaldi Blocker lists.
Extensions can have nice features but slow down more.

Users who need much features working are not really always satisfied with Vivaldi and are invited to try Mozilla. Until Mozilla Corp. pollutes the browser with allowed ads.

PS: Welcome here, Hund of Dr. Schrödinger.

Catweazle

@DoctorG, I'm currently testing this script, maybe a good complement to the Vivaldi blocker. It permits to delete objects of an webpage, WebEraser. It's somewhat outdated, but seems to work https://openuserjs.org/scripts/slow!/WebEraser

Erase parts of any webpage --annoyances, logos, ads, images, etc., permanently with just, Ctrl + Left-Click.

mib2berlin

@Catweazle
Hi, I cant remove anything on n-tv.de for example but it block the context menu in the address field.
I test this on 6.9, Linux.

Cheers, mib

Catweazle

@mib2berlin, I'll test it, but from Spain I need to us a proxie because the $%&&$#@ country restrictions.

Well, I can confirm that the search box don't work, but I can delete the ad at the bottom of the page without problems.

mib2berlin

@Catweazle
Ah OK, it stops other things on some pages too, not really working for me.
I guess scripts injection is the way to go, I use a script and violent monkey for YT but I guess ViolentMonkey stop's working with M3 too.

DoctorG

I guess some months before Google's Chromium stops support of Manifest v2, we will need a thread to tell users how to add Blocker rules and/or which existing adblock lists are useful.

//EDIT:
That is a request towards Vivaldi dev team to enhance the Vivaldi Blocker and to forum team to write an article about adblock rules and lists.

Catweazle

@mib2berlin, I use LibertyBear, I think it's a v3 Violentmonkey fork. Anyway, for same reasons as with the adblockers, an inbuild script manager will be a good idea, IMHO.
The Chrome Store is less and less a trustworth source for me, full of extensions without any indication of authors or homepage or links leading to 404, same as Google Play in Android.

bcordier

@Preorian You can do both (Firefox and Vivaldi side by side). I use both because sadly a lot of websites are optimised for Chromium based browsers (and not minor websites either). Glad to have Vivaldi for that.

barbudo2005

@DoctorG

Said:

That is a request towards Vivaldi dev team to enhance the Vivaldi Blocker and to forum team to write an article about adblock rules and lists.

The standard is uBO, so what the team has to do is to allow all uBO default lists to work.

Because lists will still be available, including those developed by uBO.

Following your idea, there should be an article that categorizes the different types of lists that uBO uses, i.e.

Type 1:

Type 2:

Type 3:

Type 4:

And explain which type is already available, and as new ones are added, so that in June 2025 the list of filters will be the same as this one:

In other words a methodical project that has defined steps.

barbudo2005

You don't have to be very astute to see that the ad problem is only going to get worse. There is no doubt that this is a war.

Therefore, I believe without a doubt that this "project" is the most challenging and important for the team since the beginning of Vivaldi.

There are 12 months left and I expect from the team that at the end of every month we will see progress in the topic, because in engineering if you don't have a Gantt chart of the topics you want to achieve, you won't reach the deadline with something solid.

This project will put the team in a showcase in front of the users:

Is it going to be this?

Alfeñique.jpg

Or this?

Catweazle

@barbudo2005, for me it's enough that our devs are better than those from Google. One only dev has fight at eye level, gorehill, until Google changed the rules in the middle of the game.
Anyway, i one year a lot of things can ocurre and always where is a law, also exist methodes to surround it.

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Djskayoser

@Catweazle could you share this script please?

Catweazle

@Djskayoser. I had shed it already several times, but well, it's this one

https://openuserjs.org/scripts/Kraust/Youtube_Embed_Redirect

It's a very little script of few lines, install it in a userscript manager (Violentmonkey, Greasymonkey, LibertyBear, or any other).
How it works.
Every time when you click in a YouTube link, open a video in the YouTube page in a new tab, or reload a Video, it will open the video in embedded form, where you can watch it without any ad or nags, in a full tab page.

You can do this also by hand, editing the YT URL
from

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxxxxxxx

to

https://www.youtube.com/embed/xxxxxxxxx

But it is a very small script of 4 lines and it's more confortable as editing always the URL, apart an Userscript Manager is anyway a very usefull extension, because you can also install more scripts with functions and tools, inexistent in the Chrome Store.

You can find hundreds of scripts in
Greasyfork.org or Openuserjs.org

(filter it by the last update, because some scripts a pretty old and not updated since years and maybe don't work as they should, most important in YouTube scripts that they are not too old. Well, not so important in this small embed redirect script, it only edits the URL, nothing else)

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hcND9i1pSRo

ReanimationXP

FYI, if uBlock in it's current rendition ever isn't fully supported on Vivaldi, I will be switching immediately. Please prioritize this and plan on forking away from Chromium if necessary.

ReanimationXP

@kalebepalacioo: youtube?

ReanimationXP

@pathduck: Simple banner ads aren't the issue, please don't frame it as such. uBlock Origin is the only way to block YouTube and other, far more annoying and intrusive, ads and malware.

ReanimationXP

@wolvenspectre: This.