Crash after crash - No idea what is causing it.
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Latest builds I started getting a lot of crashes, constant.
I renamed the default folder and let it sync items again, and turned off all extensions.
Then it started to crash again, so I zipped up some logs and reported it. Well, it also crashed on the page submitting the report.Any ideas?, I have been using the same extensions for months and this seems to have gotten worse with latest builds.
Vivaldi 6.7.3329.24 (Stable channel) (64-bit)
Revision d4410a3fae50d95430d6ef72fe7b356214423a78
OS Windows 11 Version 23H2 (Build 22631.3527)
JavaScript V8 12.4.254.15
User Agent Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/124.0.0.0 Safari/537.36
Command Line "C:\Users\sfu\AppData\Local\Vivaldi\Application\vivaldi.exe" --restart --save-page-as-mhtml --restart --flag-switches-begin --disable-smooth-scrolling --flag-switches-end
Executable Path C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Local\Vivaldi\Application\vivaldi.exe
Profile Path C:\Users\xxx\AppData\Local\Vivaldi\User Data\Default
Variations Seed Type Null -
@bobman Not too much informations (we can't see the logs on the forum or the VB number if not mentioned).
- There is a pattern or specific urls? (other than the report page)
- What do you mean with "renamed the default folder"?
You shouldn't do that. Better do a new profile as the main one might be toasted now. - What do you mean with crash? A force close? A dead bird on a specific tab? Other?
- Did you test with a guest/private window?
- Do you use 3rd party security or cleaning tools?
- Which extensions do you use? Sometimes, a disable is not sufficent.
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@Hadden89 said in Crash after crash - No idea what is causing it.:
@bobman Not too much informations (we can't see the logs on the forum).
- There is a pattern or specific urls? (other than the report page)
No, do not see a pattern
- What do you mean with "renamed the default folder"?
C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\Vivaldi
started with fresh one, and let it syncYou shouldn't do that. Better do a new profile as the main one might be toasted now.
hm,last resort may do that- What do you mean with crash? A force close? A dead bird on a specific tab? Other?
dead bird, and browser restarts
- Did you test with a guest/private window?
no - Do you use 3rd party security or cleaning tools?
malwarebytes firewall controll + windows security
- Which extensions do you use? Sometimes, a disable is not sufficent
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baohinapilmkigilbbbcccncoljkdpnd : Shortcuts for Google
: version 28_1_1
cjpalhdlnbpafiamejdnhcphjbkeiagm : uBlock Origin : version 1_57_0
flejfacjooompmliegamfbpjjdlhokhj : Join : version 1_8_23
gljdkkichjgocpdmiaachhlfccddcjgb : Xirvik .torrent to seedbox uploader : version 3_15
jffbochibkahlbbmanpmndnhmeliecah : Vivaldi Picture-In-Picture : version 1_0
lglfeioladcfajpjdnghbfgohdihdnfl : Vivaldi Theme Store : version 1_0
mhjfbmdgcfjbbpaeojofohoefgiehjai : Chromium PDF Viewer : version 1
mpognobbkildjkofajifpdfhcoklimli : Vivaldi : version 61179_46534_5115_10029
nkeimhogjdpnpccoofpliimaahmaaome : Google Hangouts : version 1_3_21
nngceckbapebfimnlniiiahkandclblb : Bitwarden - Free Password Manager : version 2024_4_1
olndffocioplakeilhkgenfgdincjlpn : Recent Bookmarks : version 1_6_2 -
@bobman
Hi, as I don't have any crashes since 6.7 I bet it is an extension cause this, I use only uBlock and I still don't care about cookies.
Are the folders User Data and Application in your Vivaldi folder, or only User Data?
This would not be a default install.
In my opinion it is easier to use a standalone install and sync all except extensions and test this for some time. -
@bobman You can try to remove G. Translate, Shortcut For Google, Hangouts, Bitwarden and see if it helps (because g.extensions are known to be problematic and potentially not fully working).
But as you started as new, would be probably faster to remove all or most of them (I think you can keep uBO which is pretty much used in vivaldi) to check more quickly.
Have you changed something in vivaldi://flags ? If yes, revert them to their default and restart.
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@mib2berlin said in Crash after crash - No idea what is causing it.:
User Data and Application i
yes, both folders are there. May try standalone if it keeps happening.
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@Hadden89 said in Crash after crash - No idea what is causing it.:
vivaldi://flags
Dont think ive changed anything, but can reset it.
ok, trying to delete those extensions. mayve install older version of vivaldi and see.
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@bobman said in Crash after crash - No idea what is causing it.:
mayve install older version of vivaldi and see.
Do not use profile from newer Vivaldi versions with older ones! Downgrade cracks profiles and cause unexpected issues which can not be fixed by us. -
created a new user for vivaldi and sync, imported bookmarks+passwords. So lets see how long that last.
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I also had plenty crashes and dead birds. Then it got better from Vivaldi.6.7.3329.29..
now the latest the crashes and dead birds are back, same few extensions. Tried the snapshot as standalone and it crashes also, must hate my asus pn53
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@bobman did you try the troubleshooting steps, in particular step 3 (different clean profile) and 9 (hardware acceleration)?
https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/troubleshoot/troubleshooting-issues/ -
@WildEnte said in Sadly, I will be leaving Vivaldi...BUT NOW I'm back after some fixes.:
@bobman did you try the troubleshooting steps, in particular step 3 (different clean profile) and 9 (hardware acceleration)?
https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/troubleshoot/troubleshooting-issues/yes , im doing that again.
made a thread with crashes etc on 6.7.3329.24. Then after 2-3 updates the crashes stopped. After the latest update they came back again. Did send in multiple reports. Also made new account for sync -
ok, these crashes are driving me .... constant.
after creating this thread 2-3 updates came and no crashes. Then latest update and its constant again.disabled extensions, tried with and without hardware acc. new sync profile. also reset win 11. (it was time) and new install, same thing. Dead bird then restart.
Was goinf to submit crash report, but guess what happened before i could send..
Graphics Feature Status ======================= * Canvas: Hardware accelerated * Canvas out-of-process rasterization: Enabled * Direct Rendering Display Compositor: Disabled * Compositing: Hardware accelerated * Multiple Raster Threads: Enabled * OpenGL: Enabled * Rasterization: Hardware accelerated * Raw Draw: Disabled * Skia Graphite: Disabled * Video Decode: Hardware accelerated * Video Encode: Hardware accelerated * Vulkan: Disabled * WebGL: Hardware accelerated * WebGL2: Hardware accelerated * WebGPU: Hardware accelerated * WebNN: Disabled Driver Bug Workarounds ====================== * disable_d3d11_vp9_ksvc_decoding * disable_direct_composition_sw_video_overlays * disable_nv12_dynamic_textures * disable_vp_auto_hdr * disable_vp_super_resolution * enable_webgl_timer_query_extensions * exit_on_context_lost * limit_d3d11_video_decoder_to_11_0 * use_empty_video_hdr_metadata * disabled_extension_GL_KHR_blend_equation_advanced * disabled_extension_GL_KHR_blend_equation_advanced_coherent * disabled_extension_GL_MESA_framebuffer_flip_y Problems Detected ================= * Some drivers are unable to reset the D3D device in the GPU process sandbox Applied Workarounds: exit_on_context_lost * Disable KHR_blend_equation_advanced until cc shaders are updated: (http://crbug.com/661715) Applied Workarounds: disable(GL_KHR_blend_equation_advanced), disable(GL_KHR_blend_equation_advanced_coherent) * Expose WebGL's disjoint_timer_query extensions on platforms with site isolation: (http://crbug.com/808744), (http://crbug.com/870491) Applied Workarounds: enable_webgl_timer_query_extensions * Disable GL_MESA_framebuffer_flip_y for desktop GL: (http://crbug.com/964010) Applied Workarounds: disable(GL_MESA_framebuffer_flip_y) * dynamic textures fail to work on AMD GPUs: (http://crbug.com/1029855), (http://crbug.com/1050666) Applied Workarounds: disable_nv12_dynamic_textures * Limit D3D11VideoDecoder to 11.0 due to crashes on AMD: (http://crbug.com/1012464) Applied Workarounds: limit_d3d11_video_decoder_to_11_0 * Send empty video hdr metadata due to crashes on AMD: (http://crbug.com/1045586) Applied Workarounds: use_empty_video_hdr_metadata * Software overlays fail to work reliably on AMD devices: (http://crbug.com/1161215), (http://crbug.com/1160217) Applied Workarounds: disable_direct_composition_sw_video_overlays * Only enable video processor super resolution on Intel Gen10+ GPUs and NVIDIA GPUs with 530+ drivers: (http://crbug.com/1318380) Applied Workarounds: disable_vp_super_resolution * Only enable video processor auto HDR on NVIDIA GPUs with 550.50+ driver: (http://crbug.com/1445741) Applied Workarounds: disable_vp_auto_hdr * Disable VP9 k-SVC video decoding on non-Intel GPUs: (http://crbug.com/1508379) Applied Workarounds: disable_d3d11_vp9_ksvc_decoding -
@bobman I had a look through your reported crashes from a month ago. All of them were related to the Blink code in Chromium (the page display code).
Given some aspects of those crashes (they were effectively caused by null pointers), I am wondering the crashes as caused by out of memory (OOM) events. That is, I am wondering if they are caused by your machine not having enough memory available to display the pages you are loading. You might want to look at the memory specs and usage of your machine (E.g by looking at the Windows Task Manager performance tab).
Additionally, I see that there are several changes in the Blink code in the various minor updates during the past month. It could be that those solved the crashes you reported previously.
However, I would like to caution you: DO NOT(!) assume that just because you now have another set of crashers that they are "the same" as the the ones you reported a month ago. They may be caused by something completely different. Only a bug report with crash dump can let us determine that.
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thanks for getting back to me.
I have 32GB of ram, and now have vivaldi open with 15 tabs and running cinebench and currently using 54% memory.so its not that. Did memory + and windows memory test with no errors. So maybe its a chrome thing behind the crashes.
on a reset win 11 now, sonot much more I could do.
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@bobman OK, one thing that often happens during OOM is that null pointers are created, and causes a crash a bit later.
I had an extra look at one of your earlier crash reports, and noticed that you at the time had 7 extensions installed (and I see you listed them above). Extensions (as mentioned above) are known to occasionally cause problems, which is why all the volunteers troubleshooting tips have various entries for testing them.
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Well, I've reinstalled win 11 3 times now, and Vivaldi, edge etc crash on acess violation. Fresh updated install.
So, possible a hw problem here
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@bobman Well, if you have multiple applications (or at least browsers) crashing, it is rather unlikely to a Vivaldi-specific issue. It could be a general Chromium issue, but only crashdumps can determine that.
If you have problems with other apps, then you might need to look elsewhere for reasons, and in that case hardware, especially RAM errors might be candidates.
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@yngve well, i think I finally found my issue.
If I use all cores vivaldi and chrome based browsers crash like crazy. set affinity and only using 1 core, no crash and plenty extensions and tabs open. So seems a core issue on my cpu
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@bobman Ouch! I suggest replacing it ASAP.
OK, that could explain why all of your crashlogs were all over the place.
