Does Vivaldi's UI feel out of date to you?
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@Ayespy Sure. Different use cases different needs.
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@Ayespy said in Does Vivaldi's UI feel out of date to you?:
@Toontje I suppose that's an idea, but ARC only installs on Apple devices,
Hmm? Running happily on my Windows laptop for a couple of months now Still nowhere near where Vivaldi is in terms of functionality though.
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@Toontje Yes Arc is great for its UI and for how they've reimagined the way a browser works (which I appreciate a lot as a UI/UX designer) but it's intended for a different type of user. I appreciate the efforts Vivaldi makes towards privacy and the amount of features and personalization that it offers much more than I would appreciate a pretty looking Arc browser.
Arc not being openly available for Windows is another problem too, but I've tried it through the closed beta just to get a good feel of how it handles tabs so I'm not as biased towards Vivaldi while writing this.
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interesting discussion about the pro and cons of Arc.
https://discuss.techlore.tech/t/what-are-the-communitys-thoughts-on-arc-browser/5064
It seams that Arc itself is reasonable private, except that it send data to it's service provider, and these are Google, Facebook, OpenAI and Microsoft . At the end an user said, that it don't offer more than Vivaldi.
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@eskaigarcia @oscartorres.io is spot on in the thread mentioned above. Once you are used to the productivity Arc provides it’s very hard to go back to “old-fashioned” browsers.
As for privacy, i appreciate all the effort people are making to become less visible on the internet, but i think this train has passed when we continued to use Google products after they monetised them in 2007. -
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@Catweazle Oder Android zu verwenden... Oder gleich jeder website mit Google tools zu besuchen...
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@Toontje, yes, Android is really a problem (although iOS isn't much better either, just more expensive). That's why I never have important data in my cell phone and only use it for what is absolutely necessary. I prefer everything else from the PC, it's more convenient for me and I also have more options to turn off the tap for those who are too curious.
@Zalex108, sorry, an lapsus, edited.
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@7twenty said in Does Vivaldi's UI feel out of date to you?:
I'd be curious to know your ideas on what, how you would change things.
Went back to this because I has some free time and ended up moving things around trying to make something I think looks clean. I'm pretty sure one can find a thousand problems to it, but I feel like I'd happily use a modded version of Vivaldi that looked like this:
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100%
Many people switched to Arc for this reason. Compared to even Firefox/Chrome/Edge, the subtle details in Vivaldi's UI seem less well designed, and feels more like a hacked together solution for friends. For example, I like the Vivaldi's window panel a lot, but compared to Arc's side panel, there's almost a 10-year gap. -
I'm not trying to argue, but I don't think there's anything more than anecdotal evidence that anyone switched to Arc.
I tried out Arc and came right back to Vivaldi.
I'm sure there were some people who switched to Arc, just like people switch to any other browser for various reasons.
I don't find Vivaldi's UI to be dated at all.
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@RiveDroite
Thank you for the reply. I actually am curious about how the forum works as a communication channel between users and Vivaldi. Do ambassadors like you work within the Vivaldi teams? I ask because as users, we come here to provide feedbacks and opinions and hope some of the concerns can be picked up, but more often we end up discussing "evidences" with ambassadors, and it becomes an "attack Vivaldi", "defending Vivaldi" thing, which is very strange. Have you heard of a thing called "饭圈文化“? I certainly hope Vivaldi doesn't become something like that."How dare you say that? Do you know how hard working Vivaldi is?"
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@chenyf Ambassadors are nothing more than users who volunteer.
To be clear, I wasn't trying to downplay anything, I was more just curious where this idea that many people switched to Arc came from?
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@RiveDroite Based on what I see from people around me. But hold on, let me get some statistics and write a paper about it.
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@eskaigarcia said in Does Vivaldi's UI feel out of date to you?:
Went back to this because I has some free time and ended up moving things around trying to make something I think looks clean. I'm pretty sure one can find a thousand problems to it,
Interesting concept. But... where would you have extensions? Zoom controls if enabled?
Having the show/hide panel icon on the panel toolbar won't work if it's closed, so you need to use a keyboard shortcut to open it.
Otherwise 80% of that is doable just using the built-in options. Only thing that would need some work is the workspaces as separate icons, the tab bar moving below the navigation bar, and adding icons to the tab bar.
If you're happy with a right side tab bar, then it's 90% there except for the two extra icons you want on it.