Does Vivaldi's UI feel out of date to you?
-
@eskaigarcia Not really.
I actually don't even get the whole "up to date" versus "out of date" thing, especially when speaking of an interface one can make look any way they want.
My only criteria are whether too much space is consumed by the UI, and whether I can have each function I want just a click away.
For me, the answer to the first criterion is "no," and to the second, "yes." Everything I don't want or need in the UI, I remove. Everything I do want, I place where it will be comfortable for me to access. Then I pick a color scheme and degree of rounding and transparency of elements that strikes my fancy, and go to work. It suits me right down to the ground.
If you want to see "dated," by all means look at Otter Browser. The UI looks like opera did 25 years ago, only more bleak, drab and featureless. I guess it's fast, but it does pretty much nothing I want, so who cares if it does it at lightning speed? I need my functions (email, moveable bars and tabs, customizable appearance, etc.) and I'm flexible as to how they are presented. All else are non-issues to me.
-
@Ayespy your criteria is the exact same as mine.
I want the UI to take up the least space possible, yet still have all the features easily accessible. Vivaldi easily meets these.
-
@Ayespy The up to / out of date thing was just a way to start the conversation. After all the points we're making are more or less all about clutter, ease of use and the cohesiveness of the appearance.
I know Vivaldi isn't dated like Otter and many others. It may not have a "super modern" look but it also isn't dated like that.
-
Arc is my daily driver because of its clean UI and the way it handles profiles (one Arc instance holding multiple profiles).
I know that most of the rest I like about Arc (tab management, sync(?)) can be achieved with Vivaldi as well. I tried Vivaldi because it’s the only decent browser available on Mac, Android, iOS and Linux, but it was A LOT of work to make it look and feel like Arc. And Stella then I got stuck at having multiple instances of Vivaldi open to support my different profiles. -
@Toontje One might wonder why you didn't use a single instance of Vivaldi with multiple profiles. Certainly, a lot of people do.
-
@Ayespy I did have two profiles configured in Vivaldi (annoying that apart from two Google accounts I also have to have two Vivaldi accounts), but to be able to easily switch I have to have two Vivaldi windows open all the time. Where as in Arc I can just switch profiles within the same window.
Now you are going to say: “But you can do the same in Vivaldi!” I don’t know, I think that the way Arc has implemented it is much more natural, easy, slick, don’t know. Try it and you’ll see what I mean. -
@Toontje I suppose that's an idea, but ARC only installs on Apple devices, of which I have precisely zero, and aside from that, I do not use multiple profiles. Never needed them for anything.
-
@Ayespy Sure. Different use cases different needs.
-
@Ayespy said in Does Vivaldi's UI feel out of date to you?:
@Toontje I suppose that's an idea, but ARC only installs on Apple devices,
Hmm? Running happily on my Windows laptop for a couple of months now Still nowhere near where Vivaldi is in terms of functionality though.
-
@Toontje Yes Arc is great for its UI and for how they've reimagined the way a browser works (which I appreciate a lot as a UI/UX designer) but it's intended for a different type of user. I appreciate the efforts Vivaldi makes towards privacy and the amount of features and personalization that it offers much more than I would appreciate a pretty looking Arc browser.
Arc not being openly available for Windows is another problem too, but I've tried it through the closed beta just to get a good feel of how it handles tabs so I'm not as biased towards Vivaldi while writing this.
-
interesting discussion about the pro and cons of Arc.
https://discuss.techlore.tech/t/what-are-the-communitys-thoughts-on-arc-browser/5064
It seams that Arc itself is reasonable private, except that it send data to it's service provider, and these are Google, Facebook, OpenAI and Microsoft . At the end an user said, that it don't offer more than Vivaldi.
-
@eskaigarcia @oscartorres.io is spot on in the thread mentioned above. Once you are used to the productivity Arc provides it’s very hard to go back to “old-fashioned” browsers.
As for privacy, i appreciate all the effort people are making to become less visible on the internet, but i think this train has passed when we continued to use Google products after they monetised them in 2007. -
-
@Catweazle Oder Android zu verwenden... Oder gleich jeder website mit Google tools zu besuchen...
-
-
@Toontje, yes, Android is really a problem (although iOS isn't much better either, just more expensive). That's why I never have important data in my cell phone and only use it for what is absolutely necessary. I prefer everything else from the PC, it's more convenient for me and I also have more options to turn off the tap for those who are too curious.
@Zalex108, sorry, an lapsus, edited.
-
@7twenty said in Does Vivaldi's UI feel out of date to you?:
I'd be curious to know your ideas on what, how you would change things.
Went back to this because I has some free time and ended up moving things around trying to make something I think looks clean. I'm pretty sure one can find a thousand problems to it, but I feel like I'd happily use a modded version of Vivaldi that looked like this:
-
100%
Many people switched to Arc for this reason. Compared to even Firefox/Chrome/Edge, the subtle details in Vivaldi's UI seem less well designed, and feels more like a hacked together solution for friends. For example, I like the Vivaldi's window panel a lot, but compared to Arc's side panel, there's almost a 10-year gap. -
I'm not trying to argue, but I don't think there's anything more than anecdotal evidence that anyone switched to Arc.
I tried out Arc and came right back to Vivaldi.
I'm sure there were some people who switched to Arc, just like people switch to any other browser for various reasons.
I don't find Vivaldi's UI to be dated at all.
-
@RiveDroite
Thank you for the reply. I actually am curious about how the forum works as a communication channel between users and Vivaldi. Do ambassadors like you work within the Vivaldi teams? I ask because as users, we come here to provide feedbacks and opinions and hope some of the concerns can be picked up, but more often we end up discussing "evidences" with ambassadors, and it becomes an "attack Vivaldi", "defending Vivaldi" thing, which is very strange. Have you heard of a thing called "饭圈文化“? I certainly hope Vivaldi doesn't become something like that."How dare you say that? Do you know how hard working Vivaldi is?"