Return new tab button to the old place.
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@Zalex108 I know what it is. And as I said it's also glitchy. For example sometimes it opens closed tab instead of new one.
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Ok,
Missed the word "both". -
There is a much more convenient way: Create a “New tab” mouse gesture.
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@Hargrim said in Return new tab button to the old place.:
double click on tab bar.
Wow, that's best of all. Thanks. Will probably be my go-to if it isn't too glitchy.
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@stardepp Equally good, IMO, is right-click on any tab, and New Tab is the first command.
With Tabs at the Top, I habitually use the New Tab button, but it is not the most efficient method, because its position changes constantly.
Old habits die hard, but experimenting and reading tips on forums can pay dividends in time saved, and RSI reduced.
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@Pesala Yes, that's true, but I'm a big fan of mouse gestures.
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OK so for those of you desperate to have the new tab button in a more logical place - I agree having it on the bottom is a bit of a stretch - and for some reason unable or unwilling to use
Ctrl+T
here's a workaround in CSS until they add an option to control the location.#browser:not(.tabs-top, .tabs-bottom) .toolbar-tabbar.sync-and-trash-container { order: -1; } #tabs-tabbar-container:has(.separator-wsbutton) { padding-top: 0px !important; } #tabs-tabbar-container .separator.separator-wsbutton { top: 0px; }
HOW TO: https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/10549/guide-modding-vivaldi
The last two selectors are cosmetic, just removes some IMO unnecessary blank space.This might break in unforeseen ways but seems to work ok.
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It's always weird when a feature, past choice, characteristic or whatever you want to call it, is changed without the option to revert back. This is not Chrome, it's Vivaldi, we are here for Options! Looking forward to see a position control!!
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@nekokun A bug was fixed, and bugs are not reverted, nor are options given to revert them.
I think they could come up with a better solution, but it is hard to please everyone.
Some will be happy with Pathduck’s solution, but others will complain that the button is now too far away when the mouse cursor is at the bottom of the page.
A floating position after the last tab may again disappear when the tab bar overflows.
Good luck with inventing a perfect feature, then implementing it on all Operating Systems and devices.
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@Pesala Usually, a bug occurs unexpectedly as a consequence of something else.
A poor choice or a badly considered ux element is not a bug. I can argue that I never have more than three tabs open, so it wasn't a problem (I don't, by the way).
So this sounds to me like someone realized this behavior, the '+' being unreachable if you have too many tabs open, and put it back at the end of the bar. Problem solved right? Not quite, and here we are!
The new tab "+" should be after the last tab on the bar, and when you saturate the bar with tabs, it stays at the end of the bar.
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@Pesala said in Return new tab button to the old place.:
@breadoflife It was a bug, and an old one at that.
- [Tabs] When the tab bar is on the left or right, the new tab button isn’t fixed (VB-17646)
The new tab button scrolled out of sight if the tab bar was full.
There is no way that the placement of the new tab button was a bug. It's been like that since the first releases and If it was, the one for horizontal tabs would no longer be floating after the last tab, but it still does. The problem was that the new tab button was in a container that would go out of view. All they have done is to have moved it to the sync and trash container as a lazy fix.
The new placement is awful for people who don't make it a habit of running 50+ tabs at a time
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Call it what you like. It was a bug.
The horizontal tab bar is different because the tabs shrink when more tabs are added.@Pesala said in Return new tab button to the old place.:
More thought is needed.
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They shrink on the vertical tab bar as well when using thumbnails
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@Pesala you keep saying this is a bug, this is not a bug you're just a dumbass that doesn't understand basic GUI. As others have kept stating to your ignorant ass. This is a feature that's been in Vivaldi since it's inception back in 2016. They removed a founding element of the software and you're trying to gaslight longtime users into thinking it's a bug.
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@Tomtim567 Lose your temper and you lose the argument. The bug number is listed on the changelog.
The bug was that the New Tab Button scrolled out of view.
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@Pesala I just can't with you. You refuse to see there is a problem. There's no use talking with someone that doesn't even acknowledge there's something wrong and lives in ignorance.
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@Pesala said in Return new tab button to the old place.:
In the old place (after the last tab), the button scrolled out of view if many tabs were opened, which is often the case for users who have vertical tabs.
The bug was fixed to prevent this. Bug fixes are not usually reverted.
The feature request should ask for a different solution.
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As I've already said, the bug is that the toolbar would go out of view if you have 100 tabs open. That's not a problem with the button placement.
Every browser has the new tab button next to the last tab for a reason. It's much more natural when interacting with tabs. Placing it at the bottom simply because that toolbar is static is impractical and inefficient if you don't have 100 tabs open. It makes interacting with tabs much slower than it needs to be not to mention completely altering the muscle memory people have formed over years of having it in it's previous position
They should have done more testing to get feedback before making such a drastic change to something that had barely a handful of people complaining over a 4 year period. This thread has more than half the votes of that one in just a few days
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i had to relearn to open a new tab (a doubleclick works instead) - and absolutely hated that
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The correct fix would have been to to keep the button floating after the last tab, and sticky at the bottom only when the tab bar overflows available space.
This needs to be fixed, and fast - right now it's death by papercuts. Every time I open a new tab there's frustration, years of muscle memory have me move the mouse below the last tab, only to realize "oh wait, it's not there anymore".