Privacy Guard: Your Privacy Matters – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3319.12
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Yesterday I set the Privacy Guard on and haven't turned it off. Everything seemed to be working normally. This morning though, when I started Vivaldi I got 'No Internet connection' on my tabs. I guess the Guard failed to connect to Frankfurt. Vivaldi auto-refreshed the pages once I turned the Guard off. Also, I am using Cloudlare's 1.1.1.1 DNS. Could this be the reason affecting the work of the Guard?
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If Privacy Guard is ultimately a paid solution, I think more users would be happy with the integration of the TOR network
But I really like that you are looking for new privacy solutions and allowing users to test them
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@Capushon Was starting to suspect that, but was not sure.
In any case, I just did a couple of quick tests in my local builds of both 6.6 and 6.7 (several days newer than this snapshot), and both flashed that status indication with my small test. (for reference: English UI language)
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@derDay It should work on releases, tags, commits, and for individual file commits.
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Privacy Guard is cool!
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@yngve said in Privacy Guard: Your Privacy Matters – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3319.12:
I just did a couple of quick tests in my local builds of both 6.6 and 6.7 (several days newer than this snapshot), and both flashed that status indication with my small test. (for reference: English UI language)
Where is the indication, where to look?
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@Capushon said in Privacy Guard: Your Privacy Matters – Vivaldi Browser snapshot 3319.12:
Where is the indication, where to look?
Same place it is in 6.6; lower right corner, at least for my builds
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I think there are various ways that Vivaldi can explore to monetise, even if this feature doesn't grow up to the expectations. A cloud storage tied to the Vivaldi account would be one. Anyway, I would pay to use the browser as it is now, just to know that the idea behind it lives on, and the people behind it can make more than/ a decent living
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posted twice inadvertently, maybe because of the privacy guard, who knows
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@alphy: Having optional features built-in instead of making you resort to third-parties is Vivaldi's DNA.
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@jrkl: Vivaldi typically adds new stuff to some toolbar for users. How else is average Joe supposed to discover new features? But instead of activating it, you can of course just right-click -> edit -> remove and never see anything of it ever again. It's all about choice. I personally rarely had any use for a VPN and didn't miss it (probably not gonna use it in the future either). But if there is one that Vivaldi audited (and I'm sure they'll continue to monitor it since privacy is important to everyone at the company) and it felt like a good choice, I'd rather use that one instead of doing lengthy research myself if I'll ever need one.
And again, it's optional. You can just as well go for another solution if you want to. It's Vivaldi. 🥷 -
@ayespy: (S)He has been talking about INVISV, not Vivaldi.
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@Christoph142 Can you please quote me where I stated that it shouldn't be in Vivaldi. Are you even reading? I'm so sorry for giving my opinion about this feature as requested by the team. Please don't tag me, I'm done with this.
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A lot of people in here have been talking about the privacy policy of INVISV. In general, such concerns of course are very valid. But I'd like to know which data exactly would INVISV get at all?
If I got this MPR principle right, INVISV knows who is requesting the data (me), but not what I'm requesting (that part goes to Fastly). So during usage, the amount of personal information that this company could potentially posses is more or less zero.
Did you already plan on how to provide this feature if it was to become a paid service? Is the vivaldi.net account the account to be used or would we have to create a new one with INVISV directly? And who's going to manage the payments? Essentially, which data does INVISV get?
In a perfect world (for the user), Vivaldi would manage everything and just tell INVISV "this is christoph142, here's your share of the money, now go" (in which case I couldn't care less about their privacy policy).
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@jrkl: You probably noticed yourself, that answering automatically adds a tag at the very beginning (it added mine in your reply). I was specifically addressing your "remove from toolbar" part.
The part starting with "I personally" wasn't directed at you, but was MY opinion, which I'm allowed to share just as much as you are entitled to share yours, am I not...? -
Provided the valid concerns "who has what data of mine" for account information and browsing information are satisfyingly addressed (GDPR...)
I am interested in this feature. I trust Vivaldi more than a lot of other companies I have accounts with.Integration in Vivaldi is much more attractive to me than searching for some other service provider and then making that work. I am way too sloppy with my privacy nowadays. That's stupid and doesn't make me feel too good sometimes but I am too lazy to bother myself with actually taking action. So something as simple as "click this button and we'll worry about the rest" is nice.
That being said, folks like me are probably also not going to be willing to pay too much. It also needs to be easy to start / stop using Vivaldi (avoid locking in your users) and to make the connected monetary risk low.
So I think the feature should have some free trial time, and then a prepaid model with pay-per-use would be preferred for me initially. If it turns out that I use the service a lot, my preference would likely change towards a flat rate model
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@wildente: 100% the same for me
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I would prefer that the Vivaldi development staff, which is supposedly small, would spend time on fixing bugs (or preferably not creating them) instead of introducing another feature that wasn't even on the users' wishlist.
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@Gregor, , wrong, a VPN was on the wishlist since a long time.
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@yngve It' s not there for me too, no indication that it's clearing the cache, just takes some times without any visual hints anymore, then after some time the pop up closes (and the cache is cleared)
Obviously one must have some hundreds of Mb of cache to clear to notice any time passing during the process.