Suddenly, dark theme!
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While I do not dislike it, I was a little surprised to notice that the Vivaldi forum suddenly got set to a dark theme these last few weeks (?). And I can't find any talk of it. It's very black, and all the white text really stands out now.
When did this change happen, and how do you feel about it?
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@Nebu
I can't select the day theme (aka "No skin") on the forum, the selection is saved but the forum remains dark. Browser in dark theme, system in dark mode too.
That's what I don't feel good about.As it is - a dark gray shade is better than aggressive black.
It would be nice to have that shade everywhere on the forum - just in the night theme, of course.Well, my browser theme (not the forum!) is always nightly.
I've now changed my browser theme to daytime - switching forum themes works fine with it. Kiwi browser behaves similarly.Question: what broke when updating the forum?
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@Nebu It is because the forum now follows your system color scheme. I have my Windows 10 set to dark mode and get a dark forum page as a result. And setting Windows to light mode gets the light version of the forum.
However, this does mean the forum
Skin
setting is pointless. There isn't an easy way to force the light mode if you have a dark OS theme.If you want to report this as a bug and post the bug report number from the confirmation email here, I can confirm it in the bug tracker.
You can do so here:
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@nomadic
On android, the forum theme follows the browser settings, not the system. I have android.
I'm still not sure if it's a bug.
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@far4 said in Suddenly, dark theme!:
@Nebu
I can't select the day theme (aka "No skin") on the forum, the selection is saved but the forum remains dark. Browser in dark theme, system in dark mode too.
That's what I don't feel good about.As it is - a dark gray shade is better than aggressive black.
It would be nice to have that shade everywhere on the forum - just in the night theme, of course.I agree with that! The grey that makes up the background here where I'm typing is pretty nice. But the 'hard black' gives me Android dev 2012 vibes, it's a bit adolescent.
Edit:
Interestingly, Vivaldi (the forum) now forces the black theme whatever I chose โ both 'No skin' and 'Default (No Skin)' results in the black theme. -
@far4 The forum theme on desktop follows the browser settings too, at least on Linux.
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@nomadic said in Suddenly, dark theme!:
@Nebu It is because the forum now follows your system color scheme. I have my Windows 10 set to dark mode and get a dark forum page as a result. And setting Windows to light mode gets the light version of the forum.
However, this does mean the forum
Skin
setting is pointless. There isn't an easy way to force the light mode if you have a dark OS theme.If you want to report this as a bug and post the bug report number from the confirmation email here, I can confirm it in the bug tracker.
You can do so here:
https://vivaldi.com/bugreport/?project=HELP&type=normalI did not see this post initially. This seems a very strange behaviour, to say the least. Thanks for clearing it up.
I've had dark theme on Windows forever, so the forum/browser deciding to change the theme based on that must be a recent thing. (And isn't there any discussion about this in any of the forums? I can't find any.)
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@Nebu It's not strange at all. A lot of sites do this. And it's been supported in browsers for years.
What's new with this update is only that the forum now also does it.
The issue with it ignoring the Skin setting is a bug that needs to be reported. Or they will fix it over Easter break at some time.
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@Pathduck said in Suddenly, dark theme!:
@Nebu It's not strange at all. A lot of sites do this. And it's been supported in browsers for years.
I've never encountered that.
What (well-known) websites do this? โ๏ธ -
@Nebu Well off the top of my head:
https://vivaldi.com
https://www.youtube.com
https://github.com/
https://developer.mozilla.org/
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-gb/
https://www.quora.comMaybe not well-known to you, but well-known to me.
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@Pathduck
How about the possibility of adding a few extra skins to the forum settings? Right now the forum settings provoke the user to run Kiwi/android - with the Luetage extension and tampermonkey with the script from your post.Is it really that hard to make some nice forum skins for light and dark modes? In N years of constant forum activity?
And the script can be built as a mode of operation. Then all these features will be available on any browser.
ps Just to give an example: choosing themes in github.
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While I prefer dark themes, the most annoying part of the current theme is top bar with blue background with gradient.
I see 3 ways how to improve it:
- disable gradient
- change blue color to less contrast one + remove gradient
- make the bar narrow
no, I am not going to use custom css for the forum
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the navbar color was the first I changed with css, even before hotfixing the other glitches in dark theme :3
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Time passes, day by day. Please fix at least the simple day theme on forum, the one that can now be selected but can't be saved!
Reading black on white is much healthier for our eyes than the other way around!
After all the android/Vivaldi browser does not support Stylus. -
We're working on an improvement and hope to release an update soon.
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I think this page is a good example how it can look
https://vivaldi.com/blog/desktop/getting-close-vivaldi-browser-snapshot-3329-14/ -
@jane-n
Day theme on forum fixed.
Thanks to everyone who was involved!