Youtube | Block Ads with Native Ad Blocker

[vdeane]

@Catweazle said in Youtube | Block Ads with Native Ad Blocker:

@581Gliese, no ads for me, using this. It's a permanent war between traditional adblockers and YT, and with Mv3 it will get worse, then you'll find only by Google crippled adblocker and privacy tools in the Chrome Store. Because of this I prefer to use Scripts from Greasyfork and OpenuserJS, they are independent from the store. You only need the Violentmonkey extension to use this.
It's desirable that Vivaldi include a own userscript manager, like the ad and trackerblocker,to make it independent from the Chrome Store.

Maybe the Vivaldi devs should consider working with uBlock Origin and replace their ad blocker with a version of that. I have the version from the Chrome store, and it works great at blocking YouTube ads. Also better with lots of other things, probably because it uses a much more flexible blocking system.

[Catweazle]

@vdeane, the Vivaldi adblocker for sur wil be improved. That uBO for the moment works well say nothing, it wil work in YT until you'll find only the uBO Light in the Chrome Store

[vdeane]

@Catweazle said in Youtube | Block Ads with Native Ad Blocker:

@vdeane, the Vivaldi adblocker for sur wil be improved. That uBO for the moment works well say nothing, it wil work in YT until you'll find only the uBO Light in the Chrome Store

That's why I'd love for them to build it right in - then things like "the Chrome Store" and "Manifest v3" would be irrelevant. Instead we're stuck crossing our fingers and hoping they improve the built-in adblocker, even though this issue has been around for weeks/months with no change. Quite frankly, I've lost faith and would have switched to Firefox if Firefox hadn't managed to annoy me more than Chrome. One of the reasons I switched to Vivaldi in the first place was that I expected the built-in adblocker to provide the same level of blocking that I had become accustomed to even after Manifest v3 became the law of the extension land. Instead it can't continue to do that even though we haven't yet gotten to that point. I only broke down and installed UBO on Vivaldi after the attempt to switch to Firefox crashed and burned. What will I do after Google breaks UBO? Quite frankly, I have no idea.

[Catweazle]

@vdeane, the Vivaldi adblocker works fine in all sites, where I had never seen an ad again, it even blocks the annoying cookie popups and some paywalls, adding the needed filterlists. The only site where it don't work is in YouTube, same as ocurred with other adblockers, except uBO until now (less or more).
So you can't say that the Vivaldi ad/trackerblocker is bad, it is certainly not.

[vdeane]

@Catweazle said in Youtube | Block Ads with Native Ad Blocker:

@vdeane, the Vivaldi adblocker works fine in all sites, where I had never seen an ad again, it even blocks the annoying cookie popups and some paywalls, adding the needed filterlists. The only site where it don't work is in YouTube, same as ocurred with other adblockers, except uBO until now (less or more).
So you can't say that the Vivaldi ad/trackerblocker is bad, it is certainly not.

I have not found it to work to that level. For example, with Vivaldi's adblocker, I'd get an annoying message on the bottom of all pages on TV Tropes that I'd have to manually close each and every time. With UBO, the pages come up clean. And now that you mention it, I have been hitting fewer news paywalls and cookie popups ever since I switched to UBO.

And, of course, there's YouTube, where Vivaldi might as well not even have an adblocker for how ineffective it is. And YouTube is one of the primary reasons why I use one.

I don't know much about what lists I would need to add to get to the level of effectiveness you're seeing. Someone should really write a guide on that.

[Catweazle]

@vdeane, better than a guide, you can adjust it by yourself, using this test page. Using the right filterlists is always an balancing act, between to much, that even brokes pages or to few, with which you'll see ads.
For Movies and series, live and on demand, I use the page of the Spanish public TV and same as Pluto TV, 100%free and without ads (In Pluto TV only a promotion video in the Homepage with the Movie list. Sometimes also movies (CD rips) in YouTube, there are also tons of movies uploaded by the users. (no ads with uBO or like I do). Simply search "full movie for free" in your lenguage and type of movie(Sci Fi, Accion, Drama, etc.

[davenz]

What is the point of allowing ad blocking extensions if they do not work? I saw no ads at all on YouTube until two days ago. Now, none of the ad blocker extensions work to block their ads.

[TbGbe]

@davenz Ads on youtube is an ongoing battle.
See this (long) thread https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/94832/youtube-block-ads-with-native-ad-blocker

[Catweazle]

@TbGbe, in the near future

[Pesala]

MrBeast seems to be doing well on 𝕏.

I wonder if he will make a full transition. YouTube has a massive back-catalogue of content, which will be hard to match, but if content providers can make more on 𝕏, then they will make the transition.

[vdeane]

@Catweazle said in Youtube | Block Ads with Native Ad Blocker:

@vdeane, better than a guide, you can adjust it by yourself, using this test page. Using the right filterlists is always an balancing act, between to much, that even brokes pages or to few, with which you'll see ads.
For Movies and series, live and on demand, I use the page of the Spanish public TV and same as Pluto TV, 100%free and without ads (In Pluto TV only a promotion video in the Homepage with the Movie list. Sometimes also movies (CD rips) in YouTube, there are also tons of movies uploaded by the users. (no ads with uBO or like I do). Simply search "full movie for free" in your lenguage and type of movie(Sci Fi, Accion, Drama, etc.

Switched back to Vivaldi's built-in adblocker now that YouTube is blocked again, and I decided to play with this. The thing is, it doesn't tell me what lists I need to enable. I have everything enabled except the language lists and the DuckDuckGo tracking list (which breaks at least one site I browse), and it still doesn't block the anti-adblock message on TV Tropes, for example (which UBO does). Are there other lists I should be looking to add?

[WolvenSpectre]

Well bad news.

Vivaldi Ad block was blocking YouTube ads. Then YT videos opened from links in sites like Reddit and Twitter shortly after with out the ability to skip the ad after either reloading page or opening the link again.

Then today I noticed something odd. I have subscription notices off but the notices started showing up since last night. Then today I was watching videos using the ad hoc queue function and I had the YT TOS notice come up, but my page kept reloading. I have uBlock disabled on YT while I test out the new Vivaldi Adblock, so I turned it on and found it was rapidly adding videos to the end of my queue and the extension I have called "Watchmaker for YouTube" had them all marked as watched, even the ones I hadn't seen yet and the ones that were added.

Restarted my browser with uBlock shut off and now I got the TOS Warning. I deleted my YouTube cookies and made sure they were deleted this time and went to sign in and all I had to do was click "Sign In". So far Vivaldi Ad Block is working but when I signed in it had something like 20 subscriptions in my notifications and I checked that they were off.

Update: I just went to watch a video and got the TOS Warning Again. I guess it is back to uBlock for now.

[Catweazle]

@vdeane, it.s not easy tu find the correct combination, despite the testpage shows which things are not get blocked, if you eexpand the results.
Anyway, with the Vivaldi blocker the only problem is YouTube which anti-adblock measures change currently almost daily, with which is even struggeling uBO.
The only thing that still works is the little Embed Redirect script (or maybe this one) to avoid ads, at least, in the videos.

[EricJH]

@Catweazle UBo always gets it fixed until now (we never know what the future holds of course). Ever since I turned to uBO last October it's been a very smooth ride.

When new measures get rolled out by YT it is with a limited number of users. You may be lucky not to be in the test group for starters.

Often the YouTube Detection, Ads & Breakages (2024 / 02 / 18) uBO solutions and related discussions ONLY (Mega Thread) topic on Reddit will start providing temporary workarounds to inquire and help mitigate for those affected.

To know the status keep an eye on the stickied comment by the uBO team. At the moment of writing it was last edited 6 days ago in which was stated that the fixes are being rolled out through the updater.

[Catweazle]

@EricJH, oh yes, I believe that uBO until now works fine, I only don't believe that it will do it also in the near future, probably it will be an paid app for the full version, for free only uBO lite in the Chrome store, as consecuence of the Mv3 policy by Google, if not, uBO will not longer remain in the Chrome Store and somewhat later also not in the Mozilla store.

[Pesala]

@Catweazle I am still seeing ads with uBlock Origin after restarting Vivaldi. They disappear after a while.

[Catweazle]

@Pesala, few in the YT page with the Vivaldi blocker and none in the videos with the script. Some video ads alo skipped with the Vivaldi blocker.

[EricJH]

@Catweazle What leads you to think uBO will become a paid app?

From what I gathered about uBO lite it is lite because of the constraints of Mv3. Let's assume a full version becomes available as a paid subscription I would think it would continue on the Mv2 track. Assuming Google is smart enough they will remove all Mv2 traces from Chrome's codebase making it impossible to have a fully fledged uBO.

But anybody's guess here is as good as mine.

[EricJH]

@Pesala Do you have another adblocker running alongside uBO? It is advised by uBO team to disable other adblocker.

[Pesala]

@EricJH No. I disabled Vivaldi’s Ad-blocking.