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    • saudiqbal
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      saudiqbal
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      Is there anyone getting the warning on ebay .com for unsupported browser?

      //modedit: title, merge

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        DoctorG Soprano @saudiqbal
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        @saudiqbal And which version do you have (see vivaldi menu → Help → about)?
        Or do you use any privacy extension which changes user-agent/client sec-ch-ua?

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          saudiqbal
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          6.1.3035.75
          "Not.A/Brand";v="8","Chromium";v="114","Vivaldi";v="6.1"

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            DoctorG Soprano @saudiqbal
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            @saudiqbal That is the "Vivaldi" in it which gives you a warning at ebay.
            Open Settings → Network → select "Google Chrome" and restart.
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              eBay has notified me that Vivaldi, which they describe as an out of date un-secure browser, will not be usable on eBay. they providea71de2c7-62c7-46f7-a737-4381245a9fca-Screenshot (4).png a list of supported browsers.

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                Pesala Ambassador @DanZellman
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                @DanZellman Let me guess. You're using an out-of-date version of Windows.

                Windows 7 and 8 End of Life

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                  DanZellman
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                  windows 10, 22H2. automatically updated and checked weekly for optional updates.

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                    Pesala Ambassador @DanZellman
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                    @DanZellman I use the same version of Windows 10, and see no such message. (See my forum signature)

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                      DanZellman
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                      So far it's only eBay where I get the message. FYI, AVG specifically reports support for Vivaldi.

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                        DanZellman
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                        I only have one extension, Acrobat.

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                          TbGbe @DanZellman
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                          @DanZellman Which version of Vivaldi are you using (see Help/About)

                          2) Why does your screenshot show "August 18, 2020" ???

                          Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 7.4.3684.3

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                            DanZellman
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                            6.1.3035.75

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                              DanZellman
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                              for the record, I was an Opera user until the end of version 12. While searching for a new browser, after 12 was no longer usable, I found an article on the origins of Vivaldi. been using it exclusively since.

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                                DanZellman
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                                I mention that because some of my bookmarks may go back that far.

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                                • yojimbo274064400
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                                  yojimbo274064400
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                                  Try the following:

                                  • Either:

                                    • confirm Settings > Network Settings > Report Browser Brand as is set to Google Chrome

                                    • select Settings > Network Settings > Reset Network Settings to Default

                                  • Restart browser and see if issue persists

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                                    Pathduck Moderator Soprano Supporters
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                                    There was another user getting the same:
                                    https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/87811/anyone-getting-unsupported-warning-on-ebay-com
                                    No reply to the advice given so no-one's the wiser...

                                    I have an Ebay account, even though I never use it these days. I tried all I could to reproduce getting this "outdated" warning on Ebay, even going back to Vivaldi 1.0 (2015, Chromium 65), and still did not get it. In fact, Vivaldi 1.0 seemed to function just fine with Ebay.

                                    My guess is this is some kind of "experiment" Ebay is doing, possibly only hitting some users or in some countries. The huge warning is annoying, but it has zero basis in reality. I also suggest taking this up with Ebay themselves. Create a support ticket - state you're running a browser based on the latest Chromium 114 and they should fix their broken client detection systems. Ebay is outdated, not Vivaldi.

                                    My advice is to just ignore this "warning". It's a shame that small relatively unknown browsers, based on the latest version of Chromium, has to deal with this stupidity because of clueless web developers who do not know what they're doing 🤦♂

                                    To read more about this kind of browser discrimination:
                                    https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/client-hints-or-client-lies/

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                                      Hadden89 @Pathduck
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                                      @Pathduck I also tried to raise an issue even if I knew the answer. Only solution is spoofing to what sites asks for. https://github.com/WICG/ua-client-hints/issues/342

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                                        Pathduck Moderator Soprano Supporters @Hadden89
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                                        @Hadden89 Yes, it's obviously abuse/misuse of client-hints.

                                        But even trying with Vivaldi 6.0 (Chromium 112) which should be "outdated" and set to identify as "Vivaldi":
                                        "Chromium";v="112","Vivaldi";v="6.0","Not:A-Brand";v="99"
                                        I did not get the warning.

                                        Since you get the warning - what are your sec-ch-au headers?

                                        Here are the full from 6.0:

                                        sec-ch-ua: "Chromium";v="112", "Vivaldi";v="6.0", "Not:A-Brand";v="99"
                                        sec-ch-ua-full-version: "112.0.5615.205"
                                        sec-ch-ua-mobile: ?0
                                        sec-ch-ua-model: ""
                                        sec-ch-ua-platform: "Windows"
                                        sec-ch-ua-platform-version: "10.0.0"
                                        

                                        In my default snapshot I have it always set to "Not A Brand" and still don't get the warning.
                                        "Chromium";v="114","Not.A/Brand";v="8"

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                                          Hadden89 @Pathduck
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                                          @Pathduck I didn't investigate too much but it seems there is a list of official UA-CH brands which is fetched by websites so, paradoxally an outdated client is not obsolete because fall behind the radar, while an upgraded one is blocked because is filtered out by webmonsters 😃

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                                            Pathduck Moderator Soprano Supporters @Hadden89
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                                            @Hadden89 If you ask me, those WICG people should go jump of a tall bridge small table. They're mostly Google employees anyway, no big loss.

                                            "Valid use case" - sure, there's a valid use case for everyone to use the same browser as well, just imagine how much simpler it would be for web developers if everyone just used Chrome, or Internet Explorer! 😂

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