specific media-source videos don't stream, but instead download then play; causes long browsing delays.

TbGbe · Win: Snapshot Vivaldi 7.4.3684.18

@ybjrepnfr Just as well! You shouldn't upvote that!!

hlehyaric

@ybjrepnfr I also hit the ten limit wall…
Time to move over…

luetage

@TbGbe said in *specific* feed channel embedded videos don't play:

Well, regarding "the problem" -

I added the feed from Tilvid Blogs
There was a video in "TILvids Update - January 2022" and this played OK for me (from the feed). No spooling/buffering needed.

There you go, OT territory. I warned y’all she is a bad influence. Can’t trust a smiley. Just likes to watch it all burn

ybjrepnfr

@luetage willis, reprised... again.

npro

@ybjrepnfr said in *specific* feed channel embedded videos don't play:

problem feed: https://tilvids.com/feeds/videos.xml?accountId=252

oh goodness -- after several minutes, this feed's video suddenly began playing! tried it again, and yes, after another interminable delay, it stops spooling and begins playing. now i don't know what to conclude.

same. Could be a new bug. I tried it also with odysee, some older entries need a couple of seconds there too, but not minutes.

ybjrepnfr

@npro now i must, really i'm compelled, to express my great shock at finding someone else here who actually engaged with the question. what are you, some kind of troublemaker or something?

thanks much for testing it for me. dunno about you, but i'm just confused about this problem... or at least, it's reproducible by you & me, whereas not @TbGbe for whom it seems to be ok. aaaaaaand, no other channel, nor individual feed therein, misbehaves like this for me. by which i mean; if it really is a vivaldi bug, it's a pretty weird forensically targeted one!

pmshah1946

@ybjrepnfr I too am having similar problems. Basically I find the phone's interface of WhatsApp a bit difficult to manage, especially when posting my comment from a nano onscreen keyboard. I have been using Web.Whatsapp instead on the desktop. Lately when a link to a feed is received often the response of Vivaldi is thumbnail of a "dead crow" lying on its back. Edge can handle that but it is a bigger PITA in many other respects. So Now I am experimenting with Comodo Dragon for the past 2 - 3 days. So far so good.

Don't like Chrome because it leaves 17 processes running in background blocking 2GB of memory + spying on mu other activities same as Edge. Can't and won't use FireFox under any circumstances. Hope the designers sort it out. Both are based on Chromium so why this anomaly?

ybjrepnfr

yesterday, that same channel, a video took [i think something like] ten bleedin' minutes before it began actually streaming. my goodness! meanwhile, ALL other feeds for ALL other channels, continue to behave very nicely in vivaldi.

ybjrepnfr

today https://tilvids.com/w/uDAf115m942nCza4TWWJHC took "only" 1 minute to begin streaming in vivaldi's feeds tab, so that's quite brief, historically. all other channels' feeds continue to be instant, so something clearly is still wrong.

6.1.3001.3

ybjrepnfr

today's episode took five minutes before beginning to play. far freakin' out!

ybjrepnfr

slightly o/t, but also still kinda sorta semi-relevant. ish.

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as a long-held personal preference, i've tended to a browser-only approach for my rss feeds, eg, vivaldi feeds, feedbro extension in vivaldi, or feedbro add-on in firefox. today i decided to re-examine that preference, so spent a few hours testing a few dedicated foss rss/feeds gui apps. the one i'm talking about hereafter, is rss guard.

i exported my feeds from ff nightly, coz i could not remember / deduce how to export them from vivaldi, imported them into rss guard, updated them, then began testing the app's performance. overall it was quite reasonable, better even than i might have expected, with these two notable exceptions:
- being unable to run ublock origin in this app, i was horrified to unavoidably get ads in youtube; aaaaarrrrrggghhh; that's a showstopper for me.
- it's not possible to have picture-in-picture for any of the streaming videos therein; that's a showstopper for me.

anyway, one of the channels whose feeds i tested in the app, was the one for which i created this thread. to my "amusement", these tilvids videos suffer the identical looooooooong delay as in vivaldi... despite still being fine in feedbro. so, what does this mean? implicitly, the problem is upstream of vivaldi, not vivaldi per se... yet how can that be correct if feedbro manages them perfectly?

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ybjrepnfr

hmmmm, interesting... new info on this silly problem. my testbed this time was nick's latest video, https://tilvids.com/w/2r9uDfXe5jd5aSchmhRHhp

i noticed something that i've seen each time before, when i attempt to stream tilvids stuff in vivaldi's feeds, but which significance until now i'd not realised ... for the entire time the video is not playing, after i initiate it, until the moment it eventually does begin to play, my network connection is downloading at/near my maximum available rate. as soon as the vid begins playing, all that intense network download activity ceases.

it seems to me that for some reason, vivaldi cannot handle streaming feeds from tilvids but instead, undesirably, first downloads the entire contents as a file, then plays that file locally. that is, vivaldi simply does not in fact stream, in the definitional sense of that word, from tilvids in its feeds module. otoh, if i go to that video's native site [via link, above] in a normal tab, vivaldi does indeed then correctly stream it not first download it.

the intense download activity began the instant i initiated the feed's play button

all that d/l activity ceased the instant the actual playing finally began [five damn minutes later!].

prolly have enough info now to raise a b/r, i suppose...

ybjrepnfr

the original symptoms that i reported when i created this thread have continued without break, across all the snappies since [current is 6.2.3105.31]. i have subsequently discovered additional info. all is now summarised in these dot points.

misbehaviour does not occur in firefox
occurs with 100% repeatability in all linux vivaldi snappies i've tested since thread OP
is not a vivaldi-created bug, coz the identical misbehaviour also occurs in chromium browser
symptom is triggered when trying to stream media from peertube & tilvid sites
symptom first [& subsequently] manifested to me when attempting to stream videos from a tilvid site in rss-feed-readers [both vivaldi's native, & also extension rss guard installed in snappie (but not also feedbro)]
[new info today] symptom also occurs in chromium & snappie on [at least two] Instances of the Friendica Fediverse web-client, merely whilst attempting to scroll down the timeline. sometimes it occurs almost immediately, whilst other times multiple "page down" actions are possible before the symptom initiates. it seems notable that the timeline typically includes many posts with embedded peertube & tilvid videos, so i intuit that it is the same underlying chromium bug that i first noticed with rss feed streaming, which is triggered by these Instances' sites. once the unwanted high network download & upload activity has triggered, it ~~seems never to stop~~, once again typically lasts 5' to 10' [ie, just like when trying to stream discrete videos in the rss clients] & is accompanied by chromium/vivaldi being very laggy. once the "activity storm" ends & vivaldi becomes more responsive again, the cycle repeats with subsequent Friendica t/l scrolling, to the cumulative point of browser unviability.

Examples of unwanted spontaneous network activity triggered various times today/tonight, whilst attempting to scroll Friendica timeline in vivaldi.

PS:
This aberrant behaviour was also on Friendica, so clearly Chromium generally, & Vivaldi specifically, has distinct compatibility problems with that site, ie, Friendica Instances, that in effect make it unusable there.