Sent mail showing as "unread"
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Hello,
inadvertently having sent a message from a mail account to itself (being my default account under Vivaldi's mail client), it seemingly was not enough to delete it in both mail folders (received and sent). Although it has gone from view in both, it still shows up as an "unread" message in sent folder, which even by itself doesn't make sense.
Any idea?
Elmar
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@ElmarUser Please try "Rerun Filter for Folder" for the sent folder.
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@mottenmouse Thanks, but I did that a couple of times already. As I said, my sent folder does not show the message any more, but seems to keep a trace "1 unread" of it. Maybe I missed "reading" it there. Annoying behaviour, like sometimes having to still delete messages permanently, even after they had been moved to trash.
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Okay. I misunderstood you there. I've never had that kind of "count".
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@ElmarUser hm if Vivaldi determines that an email exists twice, there is a thing called deduplication such that all "copies" of the email are one thing that just has certain properties: show in received, some imap folder, some label etc. I have long struggled with emails sent to oneself causing all sorts of problems, most of them have been ironed out in time.
Check if you can locate the email in trash, undelete it, mark it as read/unread/read, both in received and in sent. It may behave weird. These issues are hard to deterministically create and write a bug report for...
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Thanks for the insight. I am known too, to find any pothole. Trash folder is empty.
When pressing "reveal data folder" from mail settings, I actually could find the message attached to said account given by a string ending after my user like this
AppData/Local/Vivaldi/User Data/Default/Mail/8fabf6/2022/12/07/17757.eml but
was not able to locate it as a file anywhere in order to delete. It must be part of an encrypted or hidden(?) database.
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Case closed, that label is gone!
The message shown up as unread was actually not a recent inter-account "self-message", but an older one to be found in my gmail account's sent folder under Vivaldi's list of all accounts.
I must admit, that I kept my gmail account, and still with IMAP and POP3 capabilities, because I was not sure about the performance of Vivaldi's mail client, when it came out, AND because gmail still serves my smart phone's mail traffic. Does anyone use Vivaldi mail for this? (I am not happy with Vivaldi's android browser, btw.)
Other than that Vivaldi's mail client is excellent. As mentioned by others, searching its database with keywords and even addresses is not exhaustive, however.
Thanks for the replies again!
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@ElmarUser said in Sent mail showing as "unread":
Does anyone use Vivaldi mail for this?
I use Vivaldi mail as a client for my Gmail account. It's just another imap account for me. No problems.
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Okay.
In addition to my four other mail accounts I have one with Vivaldi Mail, too.
It is almost completely unused, although read out by Vivaldi's mail client (giving me rather frequent DNS or socket errors, however). So, I would be reluctant to set it up to imap and pop3 my other accounts and then only poll it in the client. Is it that, what you are doing?
Like it or not, but Google, gmail etc. belong to an IT empire...
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@ElmarUser over the
yearsdecades I have had reasons to acquire several email addresses. Some I don't use anymore at all (-> offline account acting like an archive), some I use rarely, some actively. I have set them all up in Vivaldi mail, which allows me to check or search for mails regardless of the account (in all messages) or per account (in the all accounts section). I never work through web interfaces, which are terribly inefficient. -
Excuse me for asking again. By "web interface" do you mean an address of any such mail provider, like gmail.com or gmx.net, where you have to log in? I have an address at vivaldi.net, which I nearly do not use for messaging at all, yet. Is there such a web.-based front-end for it? (I don't think so.)
As I said, Vivaldi's mail client, the Opera clone finally integrated with the browser, is quite okay for me, although somehow getting in trouble with duplicates and active clients like gmail. Maybe I should shut off imap and pop3 with it, but I wouldn't be sure, whether I will then still get my mails with android. I did not try hard, but could not find its mail client with Vivaldi there.
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@ElmarUser said in Sent mail showing as "unread":
By "web interface" do you mean an address of any such mail provider, like gmail.com or gmx.net, where you have to log in?
yes
@ElmarUser said in Sent mail showing as "unread":
I have an address at vivaldi.net, which I nearly do not use for messaging at all, yet. Is there such a web.-based front-end for it? (I don't think so.)
Try https://webmail.vivaldi.net
@ElmarUser said in Sent mail showing as "unread":
Maybe I should shut off imap and pop3 with it, but I wouldn't be sure, whether I will then still get my mails with android. I did not try hard, but could not find its mail client with Vivaldi there.
IMAP is almost always better than POP3. Vivaldi Mail is not available on Android, only on desktop (I hope that at some point there will be a mobile version of the client.). All Android clients I have tried so far have the issue that they automatically mark an email as read when I just take a look at them, which means that due to the IMAP sync I do not later see them in Unread in the desktop client. I have adjusted to this by remembering to mark an email as unread again on mobile if I still need to do something with the mail later. A bit cumbersome but works (I use Bluemail on Android for no particular reason, there may be better clients. I mainly work on the desktop, mobile is secondary)
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Thanks, that is more than a complete insight!
