I want to **read** the Vivaldi name out there
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Hello, people,
using Vivaldi to browser the web, with the settings I choose, with the choices it lets me make about privacy, cookies and some other things. I also have a few extensions that make these a bit more.
But something that is extremely frustrating and kind of bite me is the suspicious that the name of the browser I choose to use is invisible to several sites. I want to be rebel!
General people simply ignore the difference between browsers! And they are right! And the few differences a few people eventually see, are easily not explained by the choice of one browser or another, but another indirect factor that can brake the usage of any of them: a specific setting; a specific extension; a specific extension setting. Firefox and 2 famous twins, Opera, Brave, Edge, Chrome, Chromium and a few more are all the same!
If a site will brake with my "rebel setting", I will complain! I do not want to use the browser they (will probably say they) want me to use!!! I DESPISE THAT BROWSER AND MANY OF ITS CREATOR ACTIONS! Why are we (several people, in general) so calm with serious things, as years are passing?
I want to help Vivaldi browser, but I want to do it knowing that its small team (that can grow, I think) is striving to be visible, different, and have some characteristics that are not, as a ready closed settings, easily found elsewhere.
The article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebP does not mention Vivaldi, but it mentions PaleMoon, WaterFox, Gnome Web, Midori, Falkon, Links and even Internet Explorer 6! This article is just the example I passed by today where I found "compatibility with Vivaldi included", but no hint about its name anywhere.
Edit: a detail I forgot to initially mention is that browser statistics are not saying the truth about the browsers visiting sites.
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@dedeco Please read https://vivaldi.com/blog/user-agent-changes/ and refrain from “rebelling,” you’re fighting windmills.
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@luetage , thank you for your prompt reply. I will check that article and, maybe, say something else here.
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@luetage , the blog article is from 3 years ago. So, I do not consider my thread pointless. Pretty much the opposite. I want to have something in Vivaldi to make its users show rebelliousness and defiance against some things.
I want to know all the sites which work well with Vivaldi, and I want to choose if I want to use the bad ones as browser A, B or C. Use them as chrome is a choice that I, personally, will probably want to do at last, if I will (currently, I really doubt there will be only that option left, and that I will be unable to cheat a bit on any of all the others). People are needed to do this work? Sure! I would be happy to help the browser with this, for other users.
Using chromium is as bad as using browsers based on it? If it is not, I will be much surprised to discover that none stopped mimicking chrome, which is a money meaningful name to do that...
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@dedeco If you feel so deeply about Chrome/Chromium, I’m sorry to inform you that Vivaldi couldn’t exist without it. The only way out is switching to another rendering engine, which means using either Firefox or Safari, or a browser which is based on their engines. Vivaldi made an informed choice concerning its user agent and the linked article is as relevant today as it was three years ago. The situation hasn’t changed.
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@luetage , I know that. But this does not mean Vivaldi should accept and do everything in the extreme. My questions seem pertinent to me, to discuss things.
Vivaldi is using an open source software to make a closed source software. But that open source software has traps, has tricks, has bad details. It seems to still be worth it...
I am also a developer. If there was public repository for Vivaldi anywhere, even for a part of it, I could try to make push requests, instead of discussions.
I do not know, but you may not know much about me, although I have a vague idea of talking about a few memories. I used Opera 6.04, 6.05 and Opera 11.04 (and probably a few versions in between, but I do not recall them now). I did not like Opera 12 much, but it was not something that other people also did. It is the last version made by the same "good" team, anyway. Opera 12 was sold.
Many years after, Vivaldi is created. And the heart of it is made with the roots of the old Opera "good team", which is here.
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What user agent string can i use to make netshit work now??? Please give me an exact answer, and the address with instructions to change it (it can be for all sites... i have a friend here waiting to see a movie, and this cluck thing stopped working with vivaldi!!). I want the worst UA, the most distant from "gluglu" there is (if Silverlight is an accepted browser, i want its UA!).
Waiting your answer...
EDIT: Before writing this answer, By the way, i just installed Vivaldi DEB package downloaded here, at this moment, expecting it would fix, but it did not.
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@dedeco said in (URGENT NEED TO A LAST ANSWER) I want to **read** the Vivaldi name out there:
What user agent string can i use to make netshit work now???
If you mean Netflix, then it isn't a user agent problem; apparently it's Widevine DRM.
See https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/80648/netflix-not-working-in-vivaldi-snapshot-when-installed-with-scoop -
@dedeco Here of the latest Vivaldi UA. You probably will have to switch sites/user agent quite often and complain with many of them, reason V-team decided to partially drop their identity.
If you mean netsheep in HD/4K won't do because DRM on higher resolution may work only for browsers vendors which pays huge fees which vivaldi can't afford (yet). Changing the UA, here, won't resolve anything.
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@TbGbe said in (URGENT NEED TO A LAST ANSWER) I want to **read** the Vivaldi name out there:
Wide
I will check that thread now, but i "fixed" the issue by installing the User-Agent Switcher and Manager extension, and transforming my browser into a browser i do not like much, in an OS i dispise, for all sites. We watched what we wanted. Now, I will try to make this change just for netshit. The rest will have to live with Vivaldi, even if they insist in sending bad pages for that... i am just sorry for them.
I putted this in the custom mode setting, and activated it:
{ "*": "UA here between these quotes" }
I am kind of confuse with the exact UA i used, now, I would have shown it above. I used a macshit string for chorume (means [leachate][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leachate] ), but now nothing more works, and i just get another errors for everything i try to watch:
' ' cannot be seen online, try something else' '
I hate that site...
(why markdown link syntax is not working above?)
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@dedeco AFAIK, you can only view Netship in Standard Definition in Vivaldi due DRM high costs.
The user agent changer won't solve the issues there and spoofing the UA with vivaldi or (worse) another OS/browsers will increase a lot the chances of get broken sites especially while dealing with media players (which serve different codecs to the various OSes).
So.. Spoofing as chrome has not sense, vivaldi already does it; spoofing as vivaldi with the correct OS will break sites ~ but is the only logical choice from a ribellion point of view, but then you have to deal alone with the quirks you'll encounter being an unsupported choice. -
@dedeco said in I want to **read** the Vivaldi name out there:
The article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebP does not mention Vivaldi
Feel free to register at Wikipedia and change the article. Hopefully the admin at Wikipedia will not revert such edit.
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@dedeco said in I want to **read** the Vivaldi name out there:
I am kind of confuse with the exact UA i used, now, I would have shown it above. I used a macshit string for chorume (means [leachate][https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leachate] ), but now nothing more works, and i just get another errors for everything i try to watch:
' ' cannot be seen online, try something else' '
I hate that site...
(why markdown link syntax is not working above?)Because you aren’t using markdown syntax, link it like this:
[leachate](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leachate)