Vivaldi should ditch Chromium and switch to Gecko (Firefox) ...
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Vivaldi should ditch Chromium and switch to using Gecko. What prompted this? Click here for that article that came out today (9/23/22) written by @julien_picalausa about Manifest v3 and the future of adblocking on Vivaldi. It does not give me much confidence, to be honest. (Sorry!) The entire article amounts to "we'll see." That said, I think Vivaldi should consider switching its entire rendering engine over to Gecko and ditch Chromium. That way, Vivaldi (and users) can be more assured that adblocking won't be a problem with shared Firefox code as opposed to not knowing what will happen long term with Chromium with regard to adblocking. Why not? @jon
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@Omnimaxus Mostly because:
- pretty much all the code have to be re-written from scratch which could lead to the vivaldi death/stagnation;
- gecko mostly have only their devs as maintainers (which is a red flag);
- the V3 webrequest in FF is meant to be transitional. Best chance for the future is improve the native blocker.
- MPL licence is a great barrier for commercial products under mixed licence EULA/PUEL+BSD (BSD projects aren't).
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@Omnimaxus And most people are assuming that FF are going to eventually do something like V3 themselves, so what then?
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@Omnimaxus , I do not see practicable, it would be to build Vivaldi again from scratch, which would be its end. Anyway, Vivaldi's blocker will continue to work. If you are concerned, you can use in your OS, for example Portmaster, which, apart from allowing to control and block any traffic on the network, also blocks ads, trackers and malware. With this complement Google will find his teeth in a stone
>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@Catweazle said in Vivaldi should ditch Chromium and switch to Gecko (Firefox) ...:
@Omnimaxus , I do not see practicable, it would be to build Vivaldi again from scratch, which would be its end. Anyway, Vivaldi's blocker will continue to work. If you are concerned, you can use in your OS, for example Portmaster, which, apart from allowing to control and block any traffic on the network, also blocks ads, trackers and malware. With this complement Google will find his teeth in a stone
Is Portmaster also available in German?
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@stardepp , until now only in english, but it's not a big problem, it is easy to install and does not require many configurations, which are also quite simple and intuitive. By far if you want to add a few more filters to the blocker. But in principle it is to install and forget it, the same inspects the system and it adjust related to this.
Says it is still in alpha, but I have been using it for a long time and until now it works without any problem, I think they only say it for some improvements that are missing to be implemented later. -
@Omnimaxus Regularly users ask why Vivaldi does not change to Gecko code.
But the company with its employees as holders decided not to leave Chromium code base.
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Thank you to everyone who replied.
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Personally I would love to have something that, in practice, has 90% or greater similarity to Vivaldi built on Gecko. But I know it's not as simple as copying-and-pasting one code into another, and it would take a lot of work. Though, if either Vivaldi or someone else decided to do this kind of thing with most if not all features from Vivaldi present in the other browser... sign me up.
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@fred8615 said in Vivaldi should ditch Chromium and switch to Gecko (Firefox) ...:
@Omnimaxus And most people are assuming that FF are going to eventually do something like V3 themselves, so what then?
They are already. They added a feature to automatically disable certain addons on certain sites. Yes one can currently go into about:config and disable it, but the point is the feature should of never been added.
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@LocutusOfBorg What settings(s)?
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@stilgarwolf said in Vivaldi should ditch Chromium and switch to Gecko (Firefox) ...:
@LocutusOfBorg What settings(s)?
The search engine of your choice is your friend.
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Mozilla is not as free as users might think.
Their devs are sponsored by mostly US companies and foundations. Same as Chromium devs were sponsored by Google. Both, i would not call them independent browsers. Amount of noney has influence on where the path will go. But that is a sad and longterm fact.And i do not think with Mozilla's core browser development would go faster or better.
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@LocutusOfBorg What settings in about:config you mentioned? I'm also using LibreWolf, I want to check it.
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@stilgarwolf I guess in about:config the entries extensions.quarantinedDomains
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@DoctorG Yes. Is set to false on LibreWolf. And the domains list is empty.
