Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers

bariton

According to MV3, do we have a thread about the future of Site Bleacher or Cookie AutoDelete? Both developers hosting on github are not active anymore.
As I am using Cookie AutoDelete since a few years, I am looking for a replacement for such a valuable tool in case MV3 is unavoidable for Vivaldi.

Hadden89

@bariton I didn't find a MV3 alternative for these kind of extensions yet. Also, any cookie blocker (also in MV2 form) doesn't handle even the new isolated cookies. So we can only hope here.

Catweazle

@Hadden89, there isn't any alternative extensions for SiteBleacher or Cookie Autodelete in the store, also not for URL Tracking Stripper, clear Urls, Local CDN, Decentral Eyes and some others, are banned from the store, as also URL unshorten extensions. Google obviously don't like extensions which blocks it's dirty tricks to track the user, even with it's URL shortener.
The only possibility will be to emulate these with scripts or inbuild features in the future. Maybe to add them in dev mode, but this also will end with the Mv2 support in Vivaldi.

DoctorG

Some of my testing tools for web development and accessibility (WCAG/WAI) will fail after Mv3. And there are no alternatives. Bad.

Catweazle

@DoctorG, maybe as apps if they don't exist not longer as extensions, take also a look on userscripts if there are something usefull.
If these are not longer in the @#4& Store it doesn't mean that there are no alternatives out there. In Linux are tons of hacking, analytic and dev tools of every kind.

barbudo2005

@DoctorG

Don't be bitter. It's not so terrible.

For work: Firefox

For everything else : Vivaldi

Hadden89

@Catweazle Yeah, is what I suspected...

DoctorG

@barbudo2005 said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:

AdGuard MV3

I am testing it at this time. Nice.

But … interface has so large buttons and color is less contrast in filter protocol.

Hmm, uBlockOrigin is faster in filtering and in rendering display pages faster.

barbudo2005

@DoctorG

Said:

But … interface has so large buttons and color is less contrast in filter protocol.

The important thing is not what color the cat is, but that it catches mice.

Said:

Hmm, uBlockOrigin is faster in filtering and in rendering display pages faster.

Could you attach two comparative videos?

barbudo2005

I ask to those who know filter syntax:

Is this?

||fonts.googleapis.com
||google-analytics.com
||gstatic.com

Equal to this?

barbudo2005

Those of you who use uBOL or Adguard MV3 will have noticed that the extension can’t update filter rules dynamically and are only updated with the extension itself.

New with the Adguard version 5.0.91 Release date: September 19, 2024:

"We found a way around this: the new filter uses dynamic rules and provides the most reliable operation of our filters. AdGuard Quick Fixes uses dynamic rules to make adjustments in real time without significantly affecting the user’s dynamic rules limit. It’s fast, efficient, and perfect for seamless filtering in the demanding MV3 environment."

"Filter to quickly resolve content filtering issues on popular websites without updating the extension" For example: Youtube
Look the update : September 20

barbudo2005

Statistics:

Catweazle

This month with the Vivaldi blocker
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Pathduck

@Catweazle You must browse some really nasty websites

Isn't that number a total since the start, unless you've reset it?

Anyway, great numbers, just imagine the bandwidth and processing power saved!

Adblockers are great for the enviroment!

@barbudo2005 Do you run the "companion" program on the machine or just the extension? It seems they keep pushing their "app" on users?

But Adguard seems pretty good, I believe it was one of the first adblocker extensions that upgraded to Mv3, which tells me they pay attention and are serious about their product at least.

barbudo2005

@Pathduck

Said;

Do you run the "companion" program on the machine or just the extension?

I am testing in Chrome the extension Adguard Adblocker that is now MV3.

It seems they keep pushing their "app" on users?

What do you mean?

But Adguard seems pretty good, I believe it was one of the first adblocker extensions that upgraded to Mv3, which tells me they pay attention and are serious about their product at least.

Try it. It would be interesting to know what you think of it.

https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/adguard-adblocker/bgnkhhnnamicmpeenaelnjfhikgbkllg

Pathduck

@barbudo2005 said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:

I am testing in Chrome the extension Adguard Adblocker that is now MV3.

Isn't it better to test in a Standalone install of Vivaldi?

What do you mean?

I mean this program you can install, in addition to the extension:
https://adguard.com/en/adguard-windows/overview.html
I've never seen much use for such programs, so just wondering if it's "required" to get the most out of the extension.

barbudo2005

@Pathduck

Said:

so just wondering if it's "required" to get the most out of the extension.

I think it is not required.

electryon

@Pathduck said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:

I mean this program you can install, in addition to the extension:
https://adguard.com/en/adguard-windows/overview.html
I've never seen much use for such programs, so just wondering if it's "required" to get the most out of the extension.

Adguard MV3, the extension does not need the app.
The app comes though with a userscript manager too and it also loads a javascript popup blocker.
If you install Tampermonkey or Violentmonkey in Vivaldi and install Adguard Popup blocker together with Adguard MV3 you get the same stuff.

But since Adguard MV3 has to do various workarounds keep in mind that when you open Vivaldi and the tab that is restored is a heavy site, it will take time for Adguard MV3 to apply the filters. So you may see ads for some seconds and then they will be removed.
UBOL is not affected by this because it is coded differently without custom filtering support.

Adguard Popup blocker (it blocks many popups and asks if you want to block them forever or not).
Everybody should install this no matter if he uses Adguard MV3, UBOL or Vivaldi's native adblocker.
Because only UBO supports $popup.
Adguard Popup blocker is a great popup blocker.

https://github.com/AdguardTeam/PopupBlocker

https://userscripts.adtidy.org/release/popup-blocker/2.5/popupblocker.user.js

Catweazle

@Pathduck, mostly from YouTube (blcked in every visit >30 ads and almost 50 trackers, there is also Discord which I visit, because it's the support page from ShareX and Andisearch, Discord also isn't much better as YouTube, + the crap from other pages, newspapers and forums, I get fast this numbers.
Yes, ad/trackerblocker are vital, Internet nowadays is a nasty jungle.

barbudo2005

@Pathduck said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:

@barbudo2005 said in Manifest V3, webRequest, and ad blockers:

I am testing in Chrome the extension Adguard Adblocker that is now MV3.

Isn't it better to test in a Standalone install of Vivaldi?

I'm doing it expressly in Chrome to know its effectiveness, because if Chrome is "able to delete some filter lists inside the extension", and it works fine; then in Vivaldi which doesn't do that then it will work much better in Vivaldi.