Ramdisk and Vivaldi

drradic

Hi to everybody,
I am a new user of this browser and I think this is the best browser I have ever seen during my work, and as a retired sysadmin now. I could be better with the time.
I already suggest the customized size of fonts in menus, and now I suggest something that I always use when I have enough RAM.
That is RAMDISK at which I made TEMP directories (folders) for all trash at Windows OS, and for cache files that have current data, later unnecessary.
When PC is 'shutdown' RAMDISK disappeared, and at a new start is empty and ready for new temporary data. It is especially useful when surfing over the Internet can 'pick-up' a lot of garbage.
At Vivaldi that is a little difficult to make because it has pretty much different folders for this purpose.
I suggest developers to make one unique folder for this purpose to automatic cleaning all kinds of garbage. Storing cookies and any advertisements on disk makes no sense, especially since malware can be found there. This work excellent for all browsers I use until now. For now, Vivaldi is irreplaceable.
Regards

guigirl

@drradic This is not directly solving your posted aspiration, but hopefully might give you some indirect food for thought. I perceive you're a windozer, so the following would need adapting from my Linux use-case to your windoze use-case, as appropriate.

I use a ramdisk in my /tmp, which by system-design is emptied at reboot.
I use a launch command option /opt/vivaldi-snapshot/vivaldi-snapshot --disk-cache-dir=/tmp/vivaldi-snapshot-cache for my Vivaldi-Snapshot, which places V's cache subdirectory into /tmp.
Ergo, no unnecessary SSD wear arises from frequent cache-writing during V usage, and said cache is wiped at reboot.

guigirl@archlinuxTower[~] 10:12:08 Sat Jun 25 $> df -h                       ###some lines removed for clarity
Filesystem        Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda4          59G   35G   22G  62% /
tmpfs              16G  379M   16G   3% /tmp                       ###ramdisk
/dev/sda1         156M   11M  146M   7% /boot/efi
/dev/dm-1          32G  8.7G   22G  30% /home
guigirl@archlinuxTower[~] 10:12:11 Sat Jun 25 $>

Can you do something equivalent in your own system?

drradic

@guigirl
Hello,
Thank You for this suggestion. As I said, I am completely new at using Vivaldi, and I didn't read manual jet. So, your suggestion of using command line possibilities is welcome. Many programs do not have this feature.
For now, I have RAMDISK (Romex)
where I made a few Vivaldi folders and used junctions made by LSE to redirect garbage toward the RAMDISK.
I wrote something about using RAMDISK at my site Buzdo and Your suggestion is worth its weight in gold.
I will try to make something as You suggested.
Regards,
Drago Radic

Catweazle

@drradic , I don't use a ramdisk, I avoid the browsing junk with this extension. I only store the data from the whitelisted sites I use, like this Forum, no other.

DoctorG

@drradic said in Ramdisk and Vivaldi:

I suggest developers to make one unique folder for this purpose to automatic cleaning all kinds of garbage.

At this time Vivaldi can not patch the code to achieve this, causing to much work for the small team.
Only Chromium devs can change this. Feel free to suggest for Chromium core at Chromium tracker for Issues - Chromium Bugs

LonM

As far as I remember, if you browse in a private window, it will try to keep stuff in memory as much as possible.

Edit: this is my source, however the primary linked article is no longer accessible, so I can't check how true this is any more.

drradic

@Catweazle
That is right, but OS and other software have also garbage. The goal of using RAMDISK is to redirect all this garbage. Can be redirected to 'Null-device' or RAMDISK depending on the user's wishes. Solutions are different, but I like RAMDISK because some data remains available until the computer shuts down. RAMDISK can be very useful when You must edit some multimedia parts because of it's its high speed of reading and writing data. Today, this may not be so important because an NVMe SSD has a very high operating speed, but in the age of HDD or SSHD drives, this was not the case.

mib2berlin

@drradic
Hi, you can test this with --disk-cache-dir command like @guigirl mention.
Edit your desktop shortcut of Vivaldi and add the command at the end with the path to your ramdisk.
z:\path\to\ramdisk for example.
If you start Vivaldi from the shortcut it will use the ramdisk.

Cheers, mib

Catweazle

@drradic , this is clear to me, but in Windows 10 there is a function, storage sensor, that automatically deletes all the junk files that accumulate, every x time (programmable). Because of this, I don't really have the need to use any third-party apps or complicate my life with separate temp directories to keep the system clean. For the browsing data I have this extension which does a very good job.

drradic

@mib2berlin
Great solution!
D:\Vivaldi\Application\vivaldi.exe --disk-cache-dir="I:\Vivaldi"
The directory in RAMDISK immediately becomes full of everything.
Command-line is a miracle!
Thank's to everybody.
Regards

mib2berlin

@drradic
Good, keep in mind the cache does not include cookies, history and so forth.

Have a nice day, mib

drradic

@mib2berlin
Hi to everybody.
I spend some time analyzing all of the written in this post.
It is nice of 'Microsoft' to support command-line possibilities.
But unfortunately, Windows never be OS with full multitasking possibilities
and features like UNIX-based OS.
Because Windows is a very 'special' OS, which I use only for gaming when I need to relax,
surfing over the Internet I found some solutions and finally for some directories of Vivaldi do this.
To resolve RAMDISK possibilities my final solution is as further described.
RAMDISK is with this content:

To all of these directories is redirected everything possible garbage in Windows 10.
In Windows registry is added as at next picture shows:

Yes, the same record is in three places, but for different purposes, and in order not to quarrel,
all the essential records are the same. This works better than a customized shortcut.
With that entries in the registry, all work stable.
Also, I made some junctions:

Cookies and history are eliminated by extension which deletes all of them when Vivaldi is closed.
RAMDISK can be useful for many things, depending on user needs.
Almost forgot, my Windows 10 OS is 'cultivated' with NTLite,
so there is no more than 30% of Windows 'advanced features', like stupid games and applications or 'Donald Trump' news.
Everything that a desktop PC does not need is removed.
Regards
P.S. Sorry for the pictures. I didn't learn jet how to put text with special characters.

mib2berlin

@drradic
Hi, really interesting read, me also mostly Linux user but I know what you can do in Windows when you know how Windows work.
The Windows developer know what they are doing, the crap comes from the marketing department and some strange leadership thinking.

Thanks and cheers, mib