Vivaldi Browsers not (yet?) at the good, reputable website "Privacy Guides"

ingolftopf

"Privacy Guides is a socially motivated website that provides information for protecting your data security and privacy. We are a non-profit collective operated entirely by volunteer team members and contributors."
https://www.privacyguides.org/browsers/

"Web Browsers:
These are our currently recommended web browsers and configurations. In general, we recommend keeping extensions to a minimum: they have privileged access within your browser, require you to trust the developer, can make you stand out, and weaken site isolation.

Firefox
Brave "
Although the Chomium browser "Brave" is recommended, Vivaldi is not mentioned here.

"Mobile Recommendations:
On Android, Firefox is still less secure than Chromium-based alternatives: Mozilla's engine, GeckoView, has yet to support site isolation or enable isolatedProcess.
On iOS, any app that can browse the web is restricted to using an Apple-provided WebKit framework, so there is little reason to use a third-party web browser.

Safari "
Even the completely closed source browser "Safari" from Apple is recommended, but "Vivaldi Android" is not.

Does anyone have any ideas about this?

luetage

@ingolftopf https://github.com/privacyguides/privacyguides.org/issues/216

Catweazle

@ingolftopf , I think it's due to various other arguments I've read on forums and social media with the fixed idea of 'If it's not FOSS, it's no good' and 'Only FOSS is safe and private'. exactly this happens naturally on GitHub (oddly commercial, proprietary and owned by Microsoft). This of course is a common misconception, because FOSS, security and privacy are by no means synonyms.

Vivaldi is not 100% OpenSource and for this reason it cannot be a browser to be taken into account by these people.

On the other hand, Vivaldi is recommended on another page,
dedicated to FOSS and Linux, in several articles.
https://itsfoss.com/search/?q=vivaldi.

There are also already 2 Linux distros that added Vivaldi as the default browser, replacing Firefox, FerenOS the first and Manjaro Linux shortly after.

No browser is perfect for everyone for various reasons, but these must be well-founded reasons and many negative comments about Vivaldi come from people with no knowledge other than 'It is not FOSS, and therefore garbage'.

WildEnte

this is why I suggested adding a privacy panel to Vivaldi that makes transparent what is going on in Vivaldi right now, both regarding trackers and also what Vivaldi itself is doing. Ultimately it's not about being listed on some website that has their own agenda, but to make sure people trust what you are doing because you are transparent (the core argument of FOSS)

Priest72

I find the FOSS argument coming from windows users rather amusing.
Closed source operating system and then whining whether the browser is open source or not.

Oh the irony i say.

Those using the open source argument can actually read the code can they.?

Average user probably is not aware of open or closed source and no doubt could not read the code in either case.

Catweazle

@Priest72 , reading thousend of lines from the code, when they don't even read TOS and PP, before using a soft or service? Of course yes, sure, I think