Opera Mail and Importing — doesn't!
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@oakdaleftl did it show your accounts? Can you try importing one after the other? A while ago import failed at RSS feed accounts and chat accounts (which shouldn't be an issue anymore).
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@wildente What concerns me is that none of my stored mail was imported...! This makes the client a broken tool; I can't replace Opera Mail with such, which was my hope.
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@oakdaleftl it's clear that this is the undesirable effect
with my questions I am trying to find out where the issue is so that it can be fixed. I probably was not clear enough what I meant:
When you select the profile folder of Opera Mail, does the Vivaldi mail import dialog show your email addresses that it is going to import? You have so far only shown what happened after you had hit the import button.
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@wildente (Please understand: I'm not being "testy" — I just have a sometimes terse, sometimes garrulous and loquacious style, depending on my moods and current workload...
) Ask away! There's most likely something obvious I'm missing...
Beyond that I get the notice that the account was imported (this is a test case, single account, with emails going back a dozen years...) but none of the old emails are imported...Have I clearly described my problem?
Note: Old mails aside, M3 is a great product! I look forward to being able to "retire" Opera Mail, which has served me well for since its release!
BTW: Thanks for your concern and your efforts!
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OK thanks, everything really looks like it should work. The error messages you get suggest that something in the accounts.ini file from Opera M2 is unexpected. I think you should write a bug report:
in a few steps explain that you point the Vivaldi import to the correct path for Opera Mail, which is indicated by Vivaldi import recognizing your mail address correctly. In "what is actually happening" , say that no email is imported and add the error messages you have seen (and posted above). Please also attach your accounts.ini file to the bug report. The accounts.ini file does not contain your password and is plain text so you can check whether you are uncomfortable sharing that info.
https://vivaldi.com/bugreport/
(by the way here on the forum you should edit your posts now to make your email address unrecognizable to avoid spam)
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@wildente Gotch, will do! Thanks for the help...
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@wildente said in Opera Mail and Importing — doesn't!:
you should edit your posts now to make your email address unrecognizable to avoid spam
As far as I can tell, the spam that gets through Gmail's filtering (...quite a bit actually...) is all generated via Google's Gmail itself! I do allow access, and I can live with the targeted ads and such...
One of the reasons I'm so keen to adopt Vivaldi's M3 is predicated on my reticence to "share" some things with the Google: I keep business contacts on Google; but personal contacts (family and friends) are not on the net, only in my email Client software on my machine!
(I'm old and insist on a certain -certain- level of privacy!)
As I think I've mentioned, I eagerly await M3's stand-alone iteration; as a PWA will be Good Enough -
UPDATE: Was notified (by GMX) that TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1 will no longer be supported... Bye-bye, Opera Mail. But -not yet- Hello, Vivaldi Mail; not until and unless M3 can gobble M2's 65K+ emails — without gagging and choking. (Obviously, its meal should be well digested, and only PURE WASTE excreted...
:)'K: I admit I got carried away with the metaphor. But y'all take my point, no?What to do, what to do?? Well: It's been said everything on the Mac is easy, or impossible :Why not test that humble-brag... I fired up Mac's native Mail client: It went out -seemingly on its own! (I don't remember ever setting up an account for it...haven't launched it in literally years!)- and Lo! I had mail!
I quickly turned it loose on importing all of Opera Mail's mboxes — working, working!! Oh, happy day...I'm sure VMail (M3) will be prettier: But -come to think on it- I've often dated neighbors and coworkers; as long as I don't get too emotionally involved, I'm cool with the plain-Jane Mail app...
(: <— I'm not fickle: I'm gregarious...Later, gators; after a while, crocodile! (Catch me in the funny papers, if'n y'all miss me so much...@OakdaleFTL, on DnD Sanctuary (in Belgium...)
Gotta pack & prepare for a trip down south to Loss Angle 's Ease... Can't take my computer, only my phone! (Probably not a guitar, either. But my little brother and at least one of his boys play; I will survive!)
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I think importing generally works right now.
I haven't tried a new import in a few snapshots, so maybe these were addressed.
But, there are two outstanding issues for me right now:- Doesn't import M2 custom labels.
- Emails that are duplicates don't get imported. So there can be missing emals when importing.
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@OakdaleFTL you can also stay with M2 a little longer by switching to Opera12.18, where you can turn off the older tls protocols
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@WildEnte I'd assumed Opera Mail was the stable culmination of M2... At any rate, M2 is no longer supported, right?
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@OakdaleFTL Opera Mail = M2 standalone version of the mail client implemented in Opera12.18. It has been discontinued 2013, but since nothing much happens in terms of mail server standards, it is just as usable now as it was then. Just don't use the browser in the same package
Find Opera12 on the opera ftp server https://ftp.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera/
But M3 is now close to what M2 was so sooner or later you should just take some time, get yourself a cup of coffee, and make the switch. If you use IMAP I would recommend just downloading from there instead of importing
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@WildEnte 10+ hours to "import" from Opera Mail to Mac's native app... The results are -in a word- unusable.
M3 doesn't import the mails, still.
Six of one, a half dozen of the other: There's no acceptable solution.
(M2 does not support encryption beyond TLS 1.1...which GMX will soon drop; Outlook (Office 365 is flakey, GMail is -well, Googled!:) I occasionally use Zoho and even Yahoo!
What I desire is a client that aggregates all my accounts, keeping them in an easily searchable flat DB, locally. (M2 did this; I expect M3 will — eventually.
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@OakdaleFTL Sorry to hear all that. M3 handles all 5 of my accounts handily (IMAP in each case) and aggregates them in exactly the manner I expect. When transferring emails between accounts is perfected, and it becomes able to delete GMails completely on the first try, when filters become more intuitive and user-friendly, I really won't have much more to wish for. It's already been my default email client for home and business for a number of years now, but I was able to hit the ground running with it largely because I didn't have to try to import emails from any other source (IMAP, doncha know).
One thing I had done some years back was to export all of my emails going back to 2001 to .mbs and then upload/import them to GMail. Since then, by using IMAP, any client I log on with has access to all of my mail going back to the beginning of time.
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@OakdaleFTL said in Opera Mail and Importing — doesn't!:
(M2 does not support encryption beyond TLS 1.1...which GMX will soon drop
I'm in no way an expert in encryption, but when I look at the security settings of Opera 12.18 it says TLS1.2
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@WildEnte The stand-alone Opera Mail doesn't offer much in the way of prefs... But I'd expect -if it is derived from the browser 12.xx, which I know it was- that it should use the available options. Hm.
Perhaps our good friends at GMX are being over-protective?
(I know M2 doesn't support StarTLS; which isn't yet a problem — for me.)
As I stop-gap measure, I'll get O12.18 — import my mail, and export it...in the hopes that Vivaldi's Mail will "like" the format.
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UPDATE: Here's what the Mac app Mail displays:
(Not good: I expected these mails to be integrated into its normal scheme...)Here's what M3 (in my stable install) shows:
It has said it imported the mails — but I can't find them (display them) in the Mail window; they don't appear in the totals badge or panel view either...
:smilie-for-utter-frustration!:
I'm coffee'd out, going out into the sunshine again — for a park bench sans devices! (Crosswords and beer.:) -
@OakdaleFTL said in Opera Mail and Importing — doesn't!:
but I can't find them (display them) in the Mail window
Did you see any progress indication during import or did it just fail? You might try to import only mail and only one account at a time. Not sure if there is anything Mac specific, I only have Linux and windows.
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@WildEnte Oh, I've little doubt it's Mac-specific... No, I didn't see a progress bar (or some such indication) during the M3 "import" — I've got to put the problem aside for a while: I'll be traveling...
(Only taking with me essential tech: Cameras -digital and 35mm- pens, notebooks; guitar. Phone and glasses!) -
If you still want to access gmx with opera mail, update to version 1044:
https://get.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera/mail/1.0/win/
it supports the newer TLS versions.