How to find the dark mode

elfevans

Seeking Help to Find where is the dark mode to be found?

Catweazle

@elfevans , If you mean the dark mode for websites, apart from a extension DarkReader, you can use the Invert Filter in the Page action menu (<>) or activate the Dark mode function in the flags.

In the Adress bar

vivaldi://flags/#enable-force-dark

Enable it in the pulldown menu and restart Vivaldi

mib2berlin

@elfevans
Hi, if your OS use a dark theme you can set it in vivaldi://settings/themes/
Themes schedule > Operating System
You can set a dark UI also in vivaldi://settings/themes/

If you enable the flag:
vivaldi://flags/#enable-force-dark
all web pages are rendered dark, if this is what you want.
Play a bit with the settings.

Cheers, mib

elfevans

@catweazle
Thank you for the response. I'm looking for a black background and white text display. The same as google chrome uses.

luetage

@elfevans Not quite sure what you’re after. Do you want websites to react to the prefers-color-scheme media query or do you want Vivaldi to simply invert all light pages? Some websites will load a dark color scheme when requested, which is usually better designed than what you would achieve with the clumsy inversion. On the flipside not all websites will display a dark UI this way, but you can always invert with a page action, bookmarklet or extension. In my opinion the flag #enable-force-dark should never be switched because of this circumstance.

Now to add to the overall confusion there is a --force-dark-mode flag to start Vivaldi with, which cannot be switched through vivaldi://flags. This one will enable the prefers-color-scheme media query and load dark versions of websites. But you have to add this as starting parameter in your desktop file. @max06net can tell you more about it ^^

Catweazle

@luetage ,a lot of wevsites currenyly use dark shemes by default, Flags dark mode lacks to need the restart of Vivaldi to work and to disable it, which not so good, on the other hand only works if the visited page is in bright mode. I used it for a long time and used the invert filter in pages (few) where the flags don't work so good. But at least I use the Dark Reader extensión, which gives me the best results (except this forum whitelisted in Dark Reader, because it enter in conflict with the forum mod extension), despite the lack that extensions don't work in f.Exmpl. the Chrome Store, only in dark with flags or invert filter.

max06net

@luetage Uhh.. I can't, you summed it up pretty well.

From the discord archives by @luetage:

So I investigated this a bit today and it turns out that #enable-force-dark is the inverting thing and generally not helpful. But you were right in that starting up with --force-dark-mode indeed simulates the dark operating system settings and works with the queries. So adding the flag to the Vivaldi .desktop file on Linux is enough and indeed the solution for $someone (who has of course long left I just realized lol…).

So: vivaldi://flags/#enable-force-dark applies a more or less ugly filter inverting bright colors.

Starting vivaldi with --force-dark-mode overrides the desktop environment theme detection (which works great on OSX and Windows, but not on linux) and tells Vivaldi (or chromium) it's running in a dark themed environment. getting you the dark styles on many websites as intended by their developers.

And not to forget: The dark reader-extension, for all those websites that ignore your preference for darker colors. Be aware, the results can be ugly too, and the extension can cause other problems. If you experience issues, disable this one first, it might save you some time.

And now back to hiding in my couch, still shy

(Admins should add vivaldi:// to the list of allowed protocols in nodebb )

luetage

@max06net said in How to find the dark mode:

(Admins should add vivaldi:// to the list of allowed protocols in nodebb )

Splendid idea. I’m totally not gonna make every link vivaldi://crash and vivaldi://restart (to be fair they would open in a new tab most likely and do nothing).

max06net

Oh well... didn't know about their existence

Better not add that protocol then!

luetage

@max06net I actually think the idea is good. I guess we could put it in the forum mod, shouldn’t be too hard.

Catweazle

@max06net , yes, also Dark Reader shows ugly results on some pages (fews), but they are whitelisted, no needs to desconnect the Dark Reader, at least I don't had issues with it, until now, apart permits to adjust the colors and the contrast to adjust a better result. Not so with other dark extensions, all other have worse results, or like Midnight Lizard, which shows very good results, but slows down the system a lot.
Flags isn't a simple color inversion, because it works only in pages with a clear background, apart has several invert methodes in the pulldown menu.
I think there isn't a universal good methode which works perfect in all pages.
At least for me isn't so important tat the result is pretty, I only need that the content is readable and don't hurt my old eyes. I hate pages with clear background, like the Chrome Store, that make me see for several minutes colorful dots dancing in front of my eyes. These are ugly results.

lug

Starting vivaldi with --force-dark-mode overrides the desktop environment theme detection (which works great on OSX and Windows, but not on linux) and tells Vivaldi (or chromium) it's running in a dark themed environment. getting you the dark styles on many websites as intended by their developers.

@max06net Well, starting to run with --force-dark-mode since uh... right now lol, and seems to be working without any problem.

I'm on a Linux with Manjaro XFCE 21.2.6 and running vivaldi-stable --force-dark-mode works fine. At least for the sites that I tested until now. Thank you so much to you and @luetage for showing the function and explaining it, I was searching for it has a few months lol.

I edited the app to open with it by default too, for anyone that wants:

Open the Start Menu, search Vivaldi, right click on the app, select Edit Application..., add --force-dark-mode at the end of the Command (mine was /usr/bin/vivaldi-stable %U and now is /usr/bin/vivaldi-stable %U --force-dark-mode). And done

luetage

@lug You will have to check whether this survives updates. I’m patching the Vivaldi .desktop file with a batch script on update right now, but you could always create some kind of shortcut to start the application with custom flags alternatively.