Vivaldi webmail service blocked by Microsoft (Outlook, Hotmail, Live)

LocutusOfBorg

snotmail is dead.

Discretion

This is also happening to me. Annoying, although I realize it is Microsoft.

Also, as of this morning, I am getting "Temporary Lookup Failure" on a message that I have sent to 4 different 4 different email addresses, including gmail and a national telecom company domain hree in Canada.

Help! Must... email...

HanlonsRazor

@npro said in Vivaldi webmail service blocked by Microsoft (Outlook, Hotmail, Live):

Nothing sick imo, the only sickness is the stockholm syndrome. You are all responsible for this mess by supporting energetically or passively this company despite their well-documented (up to the highest court) filthy tactics since the '80s.

Stockholm syndrome assumes wilful ignorance on our part. That's false. It's just ignorance. Most people have no idea about the shady/immoral things big companies do; things have become way too convenient and in this day and age and there's a deluge of information about literally everything to the point that it becomes impossible to be aware of the pitfalls of every product one uses.
It disappoints me as well though.

ingolftopf

@jane-n said in Vivaldi webmail service blocked by Microsoft (Outlook, Hotmail, Live):

Yes, the problem still persists. We thought that getting delisted from the SORBS blocklist would be enough, but turns out that Microsoft is using additional measures to determine whether to deliver emails to their users or not.
We just heard back from Microsoft and, for the time being, they're refusing to let emails sent from Vivaldi.net through.
We'll keep working on it, but it's hard to say, how long it can take until we hear some positive news.
We apologise for the inconveniences this is causing.

@Ayespy, why does Microsoft behave like this?
A rogue who thinks evil of it?

Is this really against Vivaldi, or is there a comprehensible reason?
For example, are spam mails sent from Vivaldi more often than from other email providers, despite phone number authentication?

Ayespy

@ingolftopf said in Vivaldi webmail service blocked by Microsoft (Outlook, Hotmail, Live):

@Ayespy, why does Micosoft behave like this?

I would only be guessing. In the greater scheme of things, Microsoft doesn't care if little companies live or die - but the more of them die off, the easier life is for MS. And of course if Vivaldi users can't communicate then it makes it harder to get enough users to be profitable.

On the other hand, Jon S Von Tetzchner beat the pants off of Microsoft in court and cost them tens of millions of dollars with the EU forcing them to make IE removable, and to offer a choice of browsers (including Opera) in a menu while setting up a new Windows system. And Vivaldi is Jon's company, so I don't know if that has anything to do with it. If there is any corporate memory at MS, then they don't like Jon.

ingolftopf

@Ayespy thank you for your assessment.

zaporange

Any news?

ReadPriest

This is one of the addresses I have had a problem with but there was one other hotmail address as well. We are both on the same internet service provider and I can send an email from my yahoo account.

This is the mail system at host smtp.vivaldi.net.

I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.

For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.

If you do so, please include this problem report. You can
delete your own text from the attached returned message.

               The mail system

[email protected]: host hotmail-com.olc.protection.outlook.com[104.47.5.33]
said: 550 5.7.1 Unfortunately, messages from [31.209.137.12] weren't sent.
Please contact your Internet service provider since part of their network
is on our block list (S3150). You can also refer your provider to
http://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx#errors.
[HE1EUR02FT016.eop-EUR02.prod.protection.outlook.com] (in reply to MAIL
FROM command)
Reporting-MTA: dns; smtp.vivaldi.net
X-Postfix-Queue-ID: 47575BD348
X-Postfix-Sender: rfc822; [email protected]
Arrival-Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 02:57:25 +0000 (UTC)

Final-Recipient: rfc822; [email protected]
Original-Recipient: rfc822;[email protected]
Action: failed
Status: 5.7.1
Remote-MTA: dns; hotmail-com.olc.protection.outlook.com
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unfortunately, messages from [31.209.137.12]
weren't sent. Please contact your Internet service provider since part of
their network is on our block list (S3150). You can also refer your
provider to http://mail.live.com/mail/troubleshooting.aspx#errors.
[HE1EUR02FT016.eop-EUR02.prod.protection.outlook.com]
Subject Re: ________________
From [email protected]
To ______________
Date Today 22:57
Thank you for sharing this ___________. I am attempting to use my regular email again and see if it gets returned ________!

mib2berlin

@ReadPriest
Hi, Microsoft is blocking mails from vivaldi.net, the Vivaldi crew is working on a solution but MS is not much interested to change this.

Cheers, mib

ingolftopf

@takaishi29 what Microsoft is doing is not a nice story at all.

But it describes Microsoft.

jane.n

@takaishi29 said in Vivaldi webmail service blocked by Microsoft (Outlook, Hotmail, Live):

Surely, he cannot send email to me.

Emails sent from Microsoft to Vivaldi are delivered without issues.
But with one side blocking emails, having an email conversation is basically impossible.

ReadPriest

@mib2berlin Thank you. It figures.

ReadPriest

@mib2berlin Tested it with my own outlook address and it was also returned. I really need to install linux!

fiftyfourforty

@jane-n
microsoft is still received by vivaldi. not the other way around. is this true?

Ayespy

@fiftyfourforty Vivaldi does not block any senders. It receives Outlook, Hotmail, and other MS-branded emails just fine.

jane.n

Yes, as @Ayespy said, we don't block emails sent from Microsoft's email addresses. Microsoft blocks emails sent from Vivaldi.net.

Ayespy

@jane-n Wow, @jane-n !

You are up and on the job 'way earlier than I expected!

VivaLaUSA

As of today (6-5-22 10:10AM PST) a message (from Vivaldi) sent to an MS email account successfully reached its destination.

We can only hope this continues to be the case.

Ayespy

@VivaLaUSA

VivaLaUSA

@Ayespy 6½ hours later - still working. (tested two more times after this mornings test)