Solved How to force refresh a page
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I want to do a hard reset/super reload on the Mac version of Vivaldi. That's Control+F5 in the Windows version. If I press Cmd+Shift+R or even Shift+click the refresh button it will not. Doesn't the Mac version have that feature? I have no choice but to go to the Tools menu and erase the browsing data?
I sometimes have to close the tab, then open it and reopen the site to see the reset. Is it possible for the Mac version to reload without closing tabs like the Windows version?
5.1.2567.49 (Stable channel)(x86_64), macOS 12.2.1
//MODEDIT: updated title to avoid confusion
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@pathduck Thank you. I ran "Reset All" on vivaldi://flags. Then the condition seems to have improved.
My problem was not with a specific site, but I experienced it with many different sites. The simpler the HTML/CSS site, the harder it tended to be to update. The same was true for the local file view.
Some extensions that had been hidden showed up, and others had their behavior initialized. I don't recall deliberately changing the vivaldi://flags entry, but I wonder if the setting was corrupted. -
@izacks Hi, please read:
https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/navigation/address-bar/Use the Keyboard Shortcuts Ctrl+F5 or Ctrl+Shift+R / ⌘ Shift R
Check if you've changed the Force Page Reload hotkey in Settings > Keyboard > Page.
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Did you mean reset or restart? Those are very different from each other. A cold restart is turning the application off and turning it on again. If you want to reset your settings, you can do that from chrome://settings/ and then look under Advanced for the reset setting.
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@pathduck I checked the key mapping in the Vivaldi settings. The hotkey combination was "Shift+Cmd+R, Cmd+F5". Cmd+F5 is reserved ahead of time by the voice over feature in macOS. So I changed it to Shift+Cmd+F5.
In any case, I can't force the page to reload like I can with the Windows version. The Windows version will completely reload with a single Control+F5. The Mac version never refreshes the page to the latest, no matter how many times I press Shift+Cmd+F5. If I reopen the tab, there is a good chance it will be updated to the latest. Is this a specification of the Mac version? -
@izacks said in How to do a hard reset:
no matter how many times I press Cmd+F5
I'm assuming you mean Cmd+Shift+F5 here, since you said you changed it and Cmd+F5 is reserved?
Have you checked in Devtools (F12), network tab, if the page is actually being reloaded or from cache? In the Size column it will say if the request is from memory or disk cache.
Do you have an example URL where it happens?
I'm on Win10 so can't check but I can't imagine there's a reason Vivaldi on Mac should behave any differently.
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@streptococcus It is not a reboot of the Mac. The web page is being updated and I don't want to reset my Vivaldi settings to see the latest content.
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@pathduck I'm sorry, but "repeatedly pressing Cmd+F5" is wrong. I meant "Shift+Cmd+F5 repeatedly".
(After Shift+Cmd+F5) When I look at the Dev Tools, the cache appears to be cleared in the table. For example, (Disk Cache) changes to data size. But in the browser, it hasn't changed. I right-clicked on the file in question in the Dev Tools and chose Clear Browser Cache, then reloaded the entire page normally, and the display finally refreshed in the browser.
Is this a problem specific to my environment? The cache has been cleared, but what I see is old data.
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@izacks Do you have a specific site where this happens? Some local development server? Is the server sending the correct
Last-modifiedheaders when the file is updated?
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Headers/Last-ModifiedIf you see a file size instead of cache entry in the network log that means the file is requested in full from the server.
Are you seeing this on other sites too if you do a Force Refresh or is t just this one site/file?
Have you set any flags or command line arguments that deal with browser caching?
Checkvivaldi://flagsif any are different from the defaults (top of page).Please also post your system info from Help > About.
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@pathduck Thank you. I ran "Reset All" on vivaldi://flags. Then the condition seems to have improved.
My problem was not with a specific site, but I experienced it with many different sites. The simpler the HTML/CSS site, the harder it tended to be to update. The same was true for the local file view.
Some extensions that had been hidden showed up, and others had their behavior initialized. I don't recall deliberately changing the vivaldi://flags entry, but I wonder if the setting was corrupted. -
@izacks What flags had you set? It might help understand what caused the issue.
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@pathduck Sorry, I don't remember what I changed. However, I have been using Vivaldi continuously since the early versions.
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