Solved Cannot save or name bookmarks
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When I want to bookmark a web page, I click on the little dogear icon near/at the end of the address bar. If this isn't how it's done, please let me know. Seems like it should be the correct way, but it doesn't work. I get a "dialog" (more like a monologue!) box popping up with the title of "Added Bookmark" and no field is truly editable. I can click all I want in the bookmark name but no amount of typing enters a name. None of the fields accept text. Can't navigate folder tree, can't add a new folder. And the one thing that should happen is that when you click the "Done" button, it saves a bookmark somewhere, but that doesn't happen.
Edit: sorry, should have mentioned that I'm running Vivaldi 4.0.2312.41 on MX Linux 19.3 Xfce.
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I have had exactly the same problem after using Vivaldi for less than a week. I uninstalled Vivaldi, reinstalled Vivaldi brand new, and then encountered exactly the same problem in another few days.
After hopping around in Vivaldi forums, I think I finally figured out what the problem was, and... it's kind of hilarious how simple it ends up being.
The thing about the address bar's bookmark button is that it automatically creates the new bookmark in the most recently-used bookmark folder. The problem is that attempts to do this EVEN IF YOU HAVE DELETED THE LAST BOOKMARK FOLDER YOU USED. When it can't find that recently-deleted folder, clicking the bookmark button brings up an "Added Bookmark" dialog box that looks frozen and unresponsive.
Try opening the Bookmarks page (Ctrl+B) and going to the Bookmarks Trash. Do you have a recently-deleted folder in there? If you're having the same problem as I did, you can actually expand that folder you had trashed and find ALL THE ATTEMPTED BOOKMARKS YOU HAD BEEN TRYING TO MAKE THIS WHOLE TIME. The "Added Bookmark" dialog never showed it, but all those unresponsive dialog boxes from all those bookmark-button attempts were actually sending those bookmarks straight to that trashed folder.
Therefore, the way I fixed the bookmark button was to:
- Restore the Bookmark folder I had most recently deleted, so that the bookmark button can "officially" find that folder again;
- use now-working bookmark button to save a new bookmark, making sure to select that new bookmark into a different folder, a common folder that I didn't plan on deleting; and
- now I can safely delete the folder I had just restored, and my bookmark button is back in working order, saving to that common folder from Step 2.
(There is also the small possibility that emptying the Bookmark Trash could also work. But I'm too scared to try that. Unless a Vivaldi expert confirms that option, deffo use the previous paragraph just to be safe.)
Hoping this helped you out!
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@durhammer
Hi, you again :), I can do all the things you mentioned, edit text, choose bookmark folder and so forth.
Specs in my signature, testing with 4.0.2312.41.
I cant imagine it is a MX or Xfce problem, maybe an extension?
Please check with a guest profile: https://help.vivaldi.com/article/guest-view/Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin Hey mib, yep -- me again! (Get used to it unless all bugs get fixed, hahaha!)
Thanks for the tip about the Guest Window! Cool feature.
However...ahem...doesn't change a thing.
Click on bookmark icon, TRY to enter text in any field or actually save the bookmark --- doesn't happen.Edit: just a wild thought -- is the Vivaldi database/indexing involved? (Seems like it might be.) I ask 'cause I'm also having strange problems with mail searches.
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Sounds like one of those strange popup focus issues actually - what window manager and/or desktop do you use?
Edit - sorry, see you did mention XFCE, presumably with the default window manager?
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You can't enter text into the dialog in a guest window, because guest windows do not support bookmarks (don't ask me why the bookmark icon is even in the address bar). Is it possible that you are inadvertently using guest windows?
If not, what happens when you open a page which is already bookmarked and then try to edit it with the dialog box?
Can you change the text if you copy and paste trough the context menu?
Can you edit existing bookmarks in the Bookmark Panel or the Bookmark Manager?
You can also create a new profile and see if it works there: https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/tools/user-profiles/ -
@rexfahrer Thanks for the tip on creating and using a new profile! Did it, and again did not make a difference. Cannot type into the bookmark dialog box.
But yes indeedy, I can edit an existing bookmark, for what good that does me.
Keep trying, all. I'm listening and willing to try almost anything.
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Also, for what it's worth, I found the "Bookmarks" text file under my Default (profile) directory, and its permissions look like any other file in the diretory -- just -rw------- . I had been wondering if somehow the file or folder (didn't know until now that it's just another JSON file).
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@mib2berlin @Rexfahrer Well this is strange! In keeping with my curiosity about the Bookmarks file's permissions, I gave everyone/world RW permissions. Tried to save and annotate a bookmark again, same thing, no can do, then went back and looked at the file's permissions, and everyone/world was back to "none". Dunno if that has anything to do with parent/folder permissions (stupid sticky bit and related stuff).
Now going to see if permissions couldn't be saved because Vivaldi had the Bookmarks file in use, so will close the browser, change the perms again and try bookmarking again. Back in a few.
Edit after above test: same thing! Changed file permissions after Vivaldi closed down (though admittedly didn't check for wayward vivaldi-bin processes), checked again to verify that permissions were still RW, then re-started Vivaldi and tried to make/edit a bookmark. No go there, and checking the file permissions again, it was back to "none".
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@durhammer
Hi, then it is a MX problem, on Opensuse the permission stays at
-rw------- , Vivaldi closed or open.
Do you use any other Chromium browser you can take a look?
What is none, --------?Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin Hey mib, not quite following you there. What I meant was that I changed the perms to -rw----rw- manually and it stays that way until I fiddle with bookmarking in Vivaldi, then it goes back to -rw-------. Not seeing that as an MX issue. Enlighten me if I'm dense.
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@durhammer
Ah OK, -rw------ is fine if you are the owner of the file, too.
Is the profile in the default location .config/vivaldi ?
I am a bit out of ideas and nobody else report such an issue since Vivaldi is born (1678).
May you ask in a MX forum if other user have the same problem with Vivaldi.Cheers, mib
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@mib2berlin Yes, profile is in proper location (~/.config/vivaldi/Default). I also see the other profiles created for the Guest user (Guest Profile) and "Profile 1" which is probably the "new profile" that @Rexfahrer had me create.
Pretty sure I had been able to create/save bookmarks in Vivaldi before. I'm wondering just when that capability was lost. Is there a way to display the date that a bookmark was added? I see values for date added in the Bookmarks file, but they don't appear to be Linux date or datetime values; for example "13255377147718430". Seventeen digits. For comparison, here's a recent (few minutes ago) Linux epoch date time in milliseconds: "1627047845729". Thirteen digits and the first chunk way off from the one in the Bookmarks file. I can lop off digits @from the end and use $ date -d @@nnnnnn* to show the date and time conversion. The Linux value chopped off a bit shows the correct date and time, but lopping back the Vivaldi timestamp either shows a year of 2390 or 2012 after lopping off an additional digit. Weird.
*Had to double the "at" signs to avoid having to enter or select a forum user!
EDIT: Ok, NEVERMIND! I found the Chrome WebKit converter. Poking around in the Bookmarks file, looks like the last date that I could modify a bookmark was June 6th. Oddly enough, I see what looks like the date of June 9th when the Start page was added. (???) What version of Vivaldi went out around this time?
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@rexfahrer said in Cannot save or name bookmarks:
You can't enter text into the dialog in a guest window, because guest windows do not support bookmarks (don't ask me why the bookmark icon is even in the address bar). Is it possible that you are inadvertently using guest windows?
If not, what happens when you open a page which is already bookmarked and then try to edit it with the dialog box?
Can you change the text if you copy and paste trough the context menu?
Can you edit existing bookmarks in the Bookmark Panel or the Bookmark Manager?
You can also create a new profile and see if it works there: https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/tools/user-profiles/AHHHH! Guess I didn't quite understand what you were suggesting, but being curious about the Start page and its different dates, I went there and (1) well durn, I can see the date added in human terms with no need to do a conversion!, and (2) again yes, I can edit an existing bookmark there, and (3) yes, I CAN ADD a new bookmark in the Bookmarks manager (? vivaldi://bookmarks ? -- is THAT what you're calling the Bookmarks manager?) by copying/pating the URL, etc.
I still cannot add a bookmark from the web page desired while ON the web page.
Sorry I got off track about the Bookmarks file permissions and the datetime stamp therein. But it was great to learn a little bit!
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@durhammer said in Cannot save or name bookmarks:
Oddly enough, I see what looks like the date of June 9th when the Start page was added. (???) What version of Vivaldi went out around this time?
Version 4.0 https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-4-0/
In the comments of the blog post some are complaining about automatically added bookmarks.@durhammer said in Cannot save or name bookmarks:
(3) yes, I CAN ADD a new bookmark in the Bookmarks manager (? vivaldi://bookmarks ? -- is THAT what you're calling the Bookmarks manager?) by copying/pating the URL, etc.
Yes, that's what I meant. So this probably means that the bookmark dialog box is broken.
I still cannot add a bookmark from the web page desired while ON the web page.
Is there any method to add bookmarks described in the following link, which works for you (apart from the bookmarks manager)? https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/bookmarks-speed-dial/bookmarks/#Managing_bookmarks
My remaining few thoughts about this issue:
- Are you using some CSS or Javascript modification you forgot about?
- When you write that the text fields of the dialog box are not editable, does that mean they contain text which you can't change or are all of them empty?
- Maybe someone skilled could debug this issue by inspecting the Vivaldi UI (https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/16684/inspecting-the-vivaldi-ui-with-devtools) but that's not me
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@rexfahrer said in Cannot save or name bookmarks:
Is there any method to add bookmarks described in the following link, which works for you (apart from the bookmarks manager)? https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/bookmarks-speed-dial/bookmarks/#Managing_bookmarks
My remaining few thoughts about this issue:Are you using some CSS or Javascript modification you forgot about?
When you write that the text fields of the dialog box are not editable, does that mean they contain text which you can't change or are all of them empty?Hey @Rexfahrer -- first, that article you linked to is a bit off. It mentions using Ctrl+D, which doesn't itself do anything, and if I add the Shift to capitalize the D, it brings up the Downloads manager. Ctrl+B does bring up the bookmarks manager, which as noted before works, but isn't a modal johnny-on-the-spot dialog box to add a bookmark. Someone needs to edit that article to fix the shortcut stuff, in multiple places!
But yes, right clicking on the web page and selecting add bookmark does so, and later you can click on the green bookmark icon and edit the fields. Yay! But still....
Dragging the address bar to the bookmark icon on the side bar in and of itself does nothing. But if you first open the bookmark panel from the sidebar, then yes, dragging the address does add it. Like all the other successful things so far, they work but are a PITA.
I think you've made the point, and I appreciate it. It just seems to be that the most useful direct bookmarking using the modal dialog window, is what is broken. Bookmarking per se isn't.
This is a step in the right direction, but man, I'd still like to use it the way it's intended and is more intuitive! But thanks, thanks thanks for all the help, y'all!
Ooops -- almost forgot to answer the question about Javascript/CSS -- not to my knowledge, though I AM using uBlock Origin. Does that interfere with Javascript? Guess I can turn it off for a particular site and try using the bookmark icon. I'll let you know if it works. If it doesn't change a thing, I won't ....
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@durhammer said in Cannot save or name bookmarks:
Someone needs to edit that article to fix the shortcut stuff, in multiple places!
Ctrl+D works here. It should directly bookmark the page you are on, just as right clicking on the site and selecting "Bookmark Page" does, which works for you. Both methods by default don't open the infamous dialog box, but there is a setting to open it as well.
Maybe the default shortcut got deleted, you can search for "Create Bookmark" in settings, if it is still set, try adding a different shortcut. But maybe this is only another symptom of the broken bookmark dialog box. "Helper" programs for the mouse or keyboard which might intercept input aren't a thing on Linux, I guess?Ooops -- almost forgot to answer the question about Javascript/CSS -- not to my knowledge, though I AM using uBlock Origin. Does that interfere with Javascript? Guess I can turn it off for a particular site and try using the bookmark icon. I'll let you know if it works. If it doesn't change a thing, I won't ....
uBlock shouldn't interfere with the UI, and as you had the same problem in a new profile the cause can't be an extension.
If you were using a Javascript modification, you would know, because you'd have to re-add it after every update.
To be completely totally 100% sure this problem isn't caused by a modification, extension, setting etc., you can rename (don't delete it
) the configuration folder for a test (on Linux I think that is ~/.config/vivaldi) but I have little hope that it helps.I think you've made the point, and I appreciate it. It just seems to be that the most useful direct bookmarking using the modal dialog window, is what is broken. Bookmarking per se isn't.
I guess it is time to report this issue as a bug: https://help.vivaldi.com/desktop/troubleshoot/reporting-a-bug-in-vivaldi/
Give them as much relevant information about your setup as possible and hopefully someone of the testers can reproduce it. -
@rexfahrer Sounds fair enough. 'Twill be a rather lengthy narrative describing the issue, but not sure at all how to describe how to "reproduce it" when it seems only to happen to me.
Oh, and thanks for letting me know that Ctrl+D doesn't open the dialog box. Did not know that. Even so, it doesn't add a bookmark, either.
MX Linux does indeed have keyboard shortcuts, none of which use the Ctrl+D combination. The only "helper" program for the mouse (touchpad, actually) that I use is "Touchpad Indicator", but I don't know how it compares to what you're referring to; mostly, it's used to ensure that the cursor doesn't go wacky if part of my hand touches the touchpad whilst typing.
Thanks for all the help. It's good to learn these things....
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Drat. MX Linux just upgraded Vivaldi to 4.1.2369.11 but this problem still exists for me. When i saw the upgrade I figured I ought to cycle through my problem reports (one fixed at least) and test things out.
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I have the same issue on MacOS Big Sur (v11.4) and Vivaldi (v4.1.2369.16). The issue occurred when I upgraded Vivaldi, it had been working fine on BigSur previous to the upgrade.
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Hello,
same problem for me. My Vivaldi version is 4.1.2369.21 (Stable channel) (x86_64). I am using MacOS Big Sur 11.5.2. I can't edit any bookmark. Cmd-D shortcut doesn't work.
Regards.
