Firefox's Total cookies protection

Darigar

in the 89 version of Firefox they stated the next new function:
"We’ve enhanced the privacy of the Firefox Browser’s Private Browsing mode with Total Cookie Protection, which confines cookies to the site where they were created, preventing companies from using cookies to track your browsing across sites. This feature was originally launched in Firefox’s ETP Strict mode."

Is there something comparable in Vivaldi? or is it planned? or is it not even worth talking about?

luetage

@darigar I don’t know how it works and their blogpost about it is very casual. How is that different to blocking third party cookies?

Catweazle

@darigar , currently Vivaldi has a good trackerblocker, also expandable with corresponding scripts. But apart I use the Trace extension that also protects against fingerprint and others, also the Site Bleacher that eliminates all the data of having visited a page (except those that are whitelisted), such as cache, cookies, serviceworkers and others. That is, the page was never visited.
I suppose the FF store also has these extensions, really recommended to improve privacy even more

shatuga

Actually Total Cookie Protection is getting even cooler.

What it does is it completely isolates the cookie and cache storage between the top level domain of the site you're on. So if you're on "gmail.com" for instance, every cookie or piece of data that gets stored goes into the "gmail.com" box. If it's a third party cookie, or super cookie - whatever it is, it stays in the "gmail.com" box.

So if you then go to some other site, such as for example even "google.com", then none of those cookies, supercookies, cache data, or anything is available. That site gets its own bucket (even though the two are owned by the same company).

So even if a site does set a third party cookie that might be referenced across sites, the sites THINK that they're tracking you across sites, but they're not.

There are other ways to tie a user across sites on different devices together, though, such as by IP address and browser type and access time. Blocking third party or tracker cookies is still useful for that reason (because even though the site issues different third party cookies, the origin knows the IP address of each cookie and the browser signature, and can imply that then they might likely be the same person).

I'm no super expert, but that's my understanding. And I wish Vivaldi had it!

Pathduck

@shatuga Hello and Welcome to the Vivaldi Community

Isn't this basically the same as just blocking third-party cookies? Possibly with the added advantage of not blocking sites that break because they are blocked...

Google just unites all its services on the google.com domain, and Gmail redirects to mail.google.com - so it wouldn't be much use there.

Tab isolation would be pretty good though, if each tab could exist within its own isolated container.

Streptococcus

@Pathduck said in Firefox's Total cookies protection:

@shatuga Hello and Welcome to the Vivaldi Community

Isn't this basically the same as just blocking third-party cookies? Possibly with the added advantage of not blocking sites that break because they are blocked...

Google just unites all its services on the google.com domain, and Gmail redirects to mail.google.com - so it wouldn't be much use there.

Tab isolation would be pretty good though, if each tab could exist within its own isolated container.

It is possible to block the second-level domain but still allow cookies from a specific third-level address. For instance, I block google.com from setting cookies, but I have to allow mail.google.com to set cookies with SeaMonkey to get Gmail.