Browsers made in the EU
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@kerygma Yes and no.
Yes: People are free to install whatever browser they want. It's a simple enough matter to install another browser, if you know what you're doing.
No: The key-part there is "if you know what you're dong"! You'd have to know that there's choices beyond the default browser and Chrome. You'd have to be comfortable installing software.
And that's just for browsers. Take something more complex, like operating systems, and even I have trouble with that! I had a lot of trouble getting Linux to install, and work properly, on one of my computers. I'm good with computers. So when even I have trouble, what hope is there for the average computer-user? People have a choice in principle. But principle and practice are two different things!
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@eggcorn , this is the other point, the OS, you can mainly choose between Windows (US) or Mac (US), also most Distros are equally US soft, with some European exceptions. Even most OpenSource is distributed (and controlled, even incluying own APIs) by M$ (GitHub) or by Google.
On mobiles it is not much different either, to choose between iOS (US) or Android (US), at least on mobiles that support Linux, if you have ROOT access.
With browsers we also depend on BigTech, since all the current engines used are from the USA.>Laptop ACER, AMD Ryzen, GPU AMD Radeon RAM 16GB, SSD 512GB -Win11 Home 64 v24H2| Vivaldi last stable|
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@catweazle That matters much less in open-source then in closed-source! As I said in a previous post: A European organization, such as Quant, could create a their own Chromium. A Chromium with the Google stuff striped out, and replaced by a more privacy-friendly sync.
Even if Big Tech were to turn on France tomorrow, Google wouldn't have the right to stop France from using that Chromium code. So with Quant, a French organization, distributing Chromium: Google would have an awfully hard time shutting France off from Chromium!
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Norway isn't a part of EU, but I still prefer my internet traffic going to Norway rather than USA and China.
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@nikommari Which vivaldi connections are going to the USA and china.?
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@priest72 , in Vivaldi only the Chromium base with some related Google APIs which are not eliminated by the davs or the user, to China nothing, except if you use Baidu as search engine (I don't think you do).
Vivaldi is only related to the old Opera until v12, but not with the current Opera, which is a product of a Chinese company -
@nikommari Vivaldi servers are in Island
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Located in iceland i believe..the land of geysers and quite cold so i have been told.
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@priest72 Yes, cold, that's why the forum is sometimes slow and frozen 🥶🧊
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@Priest72 , they say "if you don't like the weather in Iceland, wait 10 minutes"
