No, Google! Vivaldi users will not get FloC’ed.

rseiler

And then there was one:
https://www.theverge.com/2021/4/16/22387492/google-floc-ad-tech-privacy-browsers-brave-vivaldi-edge-mozilla-chrome-safari

code3

@dude99 i am not saying Google is good, just that FloC is easy to change or randomize, this, you shouldn’t be so worried

Catweazle

@code3 , you can use the system that CyDec uses, which blocks nothing, delivers everything that the pages request, but all random fake values. This is what is normally expressed with the middle finger.

paul1149

great job, guys. Appreciated!

code3

@Catweazle I would like to but it has a limited free plan that seems to break too many websites. Maybe I will try it again, instead of trace, which is not as good as I thought. I also suggest ScriptSafe, time zone spoof based on IP, and Font Fingerprint Defender if you have strange fonts.

CraigSmithee1

Thanks!!

Catweazle

@code3 , make no mistake, Trace is very good, but just like CyDec breaks pages, if you activate all the blocking it has.
With everything activated in Trace, for example in YT you will only see a blank screen. Also in Trace you have to find a compromise.
Ahora como lo tengo configurado, no rompe hasta ahora ninguna página, pero ya no hay Google header y YT ni siquiera guarda mi historial.

Eggcorn

"FLoC does have very serious implications for people who live in an environment where aspects of their personality are persecuted — be it sexuality, political viewpoint, or religion. All can become a part of your FLoC ID."

Yikes! I guess all I have to add to that is: "It can't happen here" are the words of a fool! So don't think this doesn't endanger you, just because you live in the West or something.

mossman

@Catweazle said in No, Google! Vivaldi users will not get FloC’ed.:

I think that in general the ads are overvalued, I don't believe in their efficiency, given the over-saturation that we experience every day, not only on the Internet, but in daily life, in every corner there are posters and illuminated advertisements, in Newspapers, television, radio ..., no one notices them and they do nothing but annoy.
If a product is good, people will use it, if not, the ads also do not serve to confirm something else.
People, if they need something, go to the store, to the car dealership, to online stores, they look for what they need and buy it if it corresponds to their needs, there is no more.

My whole life, I have questioned the effectiveness of advertising...

To the point where I am conscious of the rare times I see an advert and realise it has actually informed me of some product I wasn't previously aware of. That really doesn't happen very often.

The received-wisdom that every company must do it and that it's essential to the consumer society doesn't seem to match up with the amount of wasted time, money and effort (and annoyance) it sucks up.

Eggcorn

@mossman I suspect ads are targeting the whales (see definitions #5 and #7), not the common man. In other words: That ads are going after the people who impulsively spend lots of money.

mossman

@Eggcorn said in No, Google! Vivaldi users will not get FloC’ed.:

@mossman I suspect ads are targeting the whales (see definitions #5 and #7), not the common man. In other words: That ads are going after the people who impulsively spend lots of money.

Maybe for online purchases, but I don't see how that applies for the average TV ad for cleaning products etc.

NatureDictates

Humans could now be defined as sheep. I for one have no desire to be in a FLoC about to be fleeced.
Money the root/route of all evil.
Viva VIVALDI.

mossman

@guigirl said in No, Google! Vivaldi users will not get FloC’ed.:

@mossman said in No, Google! Vivaldi users will not get FloC’ed.:

TV ad

What's that?

Fair enough...

cleaning products

What's that?

Ewww!

vgosnak

Thanks, Vivaldi team!

redvalleyscott

It is exactly for stances like these that I am a Vivladi user and will likely remain so going into the future. Thanks you for your efforts.

albesari

In Viv We Trust!

stardepp

Also WordPress will block Google FloC just like DuckDuckGo and Brave:

https://stadt-bremerhaven.de/google-floc-wird-von-wordpress-blockiert/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+stadt-bremerhaven/dqXM+(Caschys+Blog)

LorenAmelang

@guigirl Same in Windows:

Directory of C:\Users\loren\AppData\Local\Vivaldi\User Data\Floc\1.0.5
03/18/2021 12:48 PM <DIR> .
03/18/2021 12:48 PM <DIR> ..
03/18/2021 12:48 PM 66 manifest.fingerprint
03/18/2021 09:23 AM 122 manifest.json
03/18/2021 09:23 AM 182,872 SortingLshClusters
03/18/2021 12:48 PM <DIR> _metadata
3 File(s) 183,060 bytes

SortingLshClusters is rather opaque...

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(Lots more of that...)

Mine is over 5 times as big as yours, and 12 days older... Does it grow with time?

Looks like it was modified before it was created, and hasn't been changed since:

Hard to guess what it might mean...

Checked my Arch - has the Floc dir, but it is empty.
drwx------ 2 loren loren 4096 Oct 10 2020 Floc

Still on Viv 3.6.2165.40, I need to update... But it is working fine.

Thot

Gurgel developers and employees must take FLoC alone to spy on themselves, if they have such an urge to spy on people! :-p

Catweazle

@LorenAmelang , same

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