Can't see saved passwords
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Vivaldi is acting weird. It prompts to fill password fields, but when I go to vivaldi://settings/passwords I can't see any saved password.
Passwords are the most sensitive data there is. Once the browser saves them but is unable to list them... shouldn't that be fixed immediately?
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@msegmx Did you had imported passwords in Vivaldi or changed the Linux user keyring?
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@Gwen-Dragon Yes, I changed the Linux user keyring. Is that the problem? How can I fix it (without entering the old keyring password)?
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@msegmx said in Can't see saved passwords:
I changed the Linux user keyring. Is that the problem?
Yes, that 99% the cause.
And what have you done to keyring before?
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@Gwen-Dragon Can't remember actually. What do you mean with "done to keyring"? I disable keyring from Linux settings whenever it pops up.
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@msegmx Did you had stored passwords before you disabled keyring? If yes, they are lost now, as the encryption key for logins was stored in keyring.
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@Gwen-Dragon I disable the keyring since first installation of the Linux distro, but it pops up after software updates from time to time. Can't remember if I had saved passwords before.
Nevertheless, right now keyring is disabled and Vivaldi prompts to fill password fields but doesn't show any saved passwords under settings. Is that normal? Or shouldn't I be able to see the passwords Vivaldi is prompting (and filling correctly)?
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@msegmx Do you see passwords if you open
chrome://settings/passwords
?
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@Gwen-Dragon Nope, "Saved passwords" and "Check passwords" are both empty.
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@msegmx Can you read https://forum.vivaldi.net/topic/30413/password-for-keyring-solved for help.
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@Gwen-Dragon I just did, but that doesn't exactly solve my problem. I'm no security expert, so, do you know where exactly Vivaldi stores entered passwords? Internally or in the keyring?
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@msegmx The encryption (hash) key is in keyring, the encrypted Logins with Password in file Login Data
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@msegmx I can not tell you when your keyring change broke the Vivaldi password storage.
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@Gwen-Dragon Ok, as long as it's no bug I can live with it. Next time I disable auto-login. Thanks for responding quickly.
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@msegmx said in Can't see saved passwords:
Next time I disable auto-login.
Auto-login and keyxring will fail with all Chromium related browsers.
And i do not know if starting Vivaldi by commandline or desktop shortcut to disable encryption of passwords could have helped you
vivaldi --password-store=basic
What happens if you start in shell with
vivaldi --password-store=basic
Can you afterwards see passwords inchrome://settings/passwords
?
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@Gwen-Dragon Just tried "vivaldi --password-store=basic", still the same. No passwords listed in settings, but auto-complete still working on password forms.
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@Gwen-Dragon Ups, sorry, no auto-complete during the session via command line, so auto-complete not working when opened with "password-store=basic".
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@msegmx If you do not see any passwords in Settings → Privacy you can not let Vivaldi insert them. Auto-complete? That does never work if keyring is broken.
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@msegmx That's what i said 1 minute ago. Passwords are lost. Bad luck.
You can not get your password vault opened if you do not have a key.
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@Gwen-Dragon Then my keyring is maybe not broken, because I still get auto-complete + key-icon in the address bar. Clicking on "manager passwords" takes me to "vivaldi://settings/passwords".