Solved function of "workspaces" as in the new opera
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Waiting for this too.
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I'm a frontend developer that is working on several different projects at any given moment and using Opera for a long time.
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The primary use case of Opera Workspaces for me is to get rid of all the separate windows that would be related to different topics like my personal life, my work etc. This is important so that I can focus on the task in hand and also I don't have to Cmd+Tab my way to the related window all the time.
Workspaces are global in Opera. If I open a new Opera window and switch to a workspace and then close that window simply nothing happens. My workspaces are still available until I remove them manually.
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I use workspaces all the time. This is the only feature that prevents me using any other browser. My personal life and work (which usually spread across couple workspaces), they all have their own workspace(s) and I only switch to them when it's relevant.
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I guess this probably can depend on one's computer but, since I use a MacbookPro with 64GB memory, I never saw one hibernating in Opera even waking my computer up after an all night sleep. I would definitely like to have an option to keep everything active.
This is not only makes switching to a workspace fast, it also affects the way I work. Sometimes I create a workspace for researching something about I'm currently working on while keeping the actual work on a separate workspace so I can easily go back to it. Keeping everything active makes this possible.
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For me manual switching from sidebar is enough. You can also configure specific shortcuts to quickly switch to a certain workspace in Opera and that's more than enough for me.
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I used Arc for a while since they have Spaces just like Opera's Workspaces. I would continue using it, their implementation of Spaces is very similar to Opera's (everything stays active all the time and you can quickly switch between spaces by assigning them to specific shortcuts and etc.) but the browser itself lacks a lot of features that I would normally use so I went back to Opera.
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Hi,
I was thinking about sessions but like windows desktop, because I have lots of tabs and I've seen few browsers that have sessions and you click one and switch all tabs to the opened tabs within that one, like:
Sessions list:
School
tab a, tab b, group tab, tab h, etc
Work
tab aa, tab ba, etc
Youtube
..., ..., ..., ..., ...
EtcWithout consuming the other sessions tabs.
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@LonM
Hello, here are my answers, I hope they will be clear-
Both options. Depends on the situation. In most use cases, one window with several workspaces is much more convenient. Sometimes you need to open a new window (for a quick view of some site, for example, in incognito mode).
If I have a window open with the current workspace selected and I open a second window with a different workspace, the workspace must be completely saved before I close it. Reopening allows you to continue working from the state in which the window was closed -
Always
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Yes, they are like the tabs now, they are active for some time, but gradually fall asleep. Naturally with saving the current state
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Very important! Ideally, it would be to make the panel like in the opera, only not in the sidebar, but in the address bar on the left, where the refresh page button and the home button are, and even better so that you can move it, like the rest of the buttons
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Yes, I'm a user of the old opera) I didn't use Safari, I'm on Debian. Yes, I used spaces in the new opera (under Windows) - very convenient.
But there are flaws there, for example, you can make only 5 or 7 of them, but I would like to make at least 20-30 workspaces.
The first is for general surfing and recreation, the second is for developing my projects, the rest is for work, one workspace per project
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@iAN-CooG said in function of "workspaces" as in the new opera:
Absolutely not needed, it's another form of saved sessions.
Just open a session in another window and you'll have a window with work stuff and one window with everything else. Just save a session with the tabs you need, done, there are your "workspaces".
It's just a matter of using the tools you have already.wrong understanding of workspaces - the correct comparison would be with two-level tabstack - the advantages of workspaces over tabstack in my experience:
- workspaces remove/limit the tabs bar clutter better
- you can move between them with customizable keyboard shortcuts (way more practical than from the sidebar with the mouse)
- Safari groups have a huge IMHO limit, at least for people like me using PIP a lot: when you change group you lose the active PIP @LonM
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Yes, this is my wish: I hope for feature like Opera's workspaces in 2023. I have no information when such feature will be released for Vivaldi.
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@DoctorG I thought they would do it by the end of this year.
This is the second year I've been asking for this feature))
It sucks if they don’t make it in time .. this feature will be a good gift for Vivaldi users for the new year -
@cOAPerator We have all our pet features which are most important for us.
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Take a look at
vivaldi://experiments
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@Pesala how to use it ? I already have Workspace in context menu of tabs when i want to move tab but there is empty field only
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@ViWalter I have no idea now to use the feature, and don't need it. Just pointing it out, because it will probably come to Vivaldi as a standard feature in due course.
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@Pesala for a couple of minutes you made my day, alas not on MacOS
PS: good to see they are coming, in the long run I guess they will be available on MacOS too
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@TalGarik It's only present in the snapshot builds (also on macOS).
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@AltCode thanks! then I will wait until it will come to the Stable version, I was just curious to see how it has been implemented, let's hope this feature and and the iOS version will come out soon.
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So i managed it to work, but it still didn't help me organise my tabs. When you send a tab to a workspace, it is also displayed there in the group from which you sent it there. I decided to ungroup it directly in the workspace and that freed all the tabs from that group in the tab bar. More chaos. I'm waiting for sending tabs to the group via right click option...
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@hummersf said in function of "workspaces" as in the new opera:
I find this Opera feature with the workspace handy aswell.
I never knew about Opera's Workspace feature, I don't know if I personally would need such a feature, I guess I need to check it out. However, if it works via the sidebar I have no interest since I actually hate having to use the sidebar, I try to avoid it as much as possible. I only use it sometimes to clear my downloads and for the reading list.
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@RasheedHolland Customise the toolbars. It is now possible to move any side panel to the Address Bar or Status Bar.
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For the moment started the implementation as Top Button
https://forum.vivaldi.net/post/628821
Not sure how about now.
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@Pesala said in function of "workspaces" as in the new opera:
@RasheedHolland Customise the toolbars. It is now possible to move any side panel to the Address Bar or Status Bar.
Thanks, didn't know about this. I have now moved the download and reading list button to the addressbar, or perhaps I will move them to the statusbar, I'm not sure yet. However, it will of course still open the sidebar, that's what I meant. I would prefer them to work just like the tab-based bookmarks and history manager.
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@RasheedHolland, instead of moving the Downloads and Reading List Panel buttons to another toolbar, add new Downloads and Reading List pop up menu buttons from the list of options in the Navigation Toolbar section of the Toolbar Editor.
To stay on topic, Workspaces menu can be moved around as well, but the feature is still very much a work in progress, hence also hidden behind Experiments even in the Snapshot.
If you do test Workspaces and come across bugs, annoyances or have some additional wishes, please report them in this thread, in a recent Snapshot blog or directly to the bug tracker.