Arching Vivaldifarians.

npro

XeroLinux looks cool , with pamac and Vivaldi by default.

guigirl

@npro Ah, it's DT. Before i watch, pls advise me -- is it guns-free?

Btw, 9+ hours later & neither herecura be nor eu Stable yet has the new Snappie. That's happened several times b4 too ofc, yet it always surprises me given other times he's so fast.

Oh ffs, what a fsckwit ... talk about alienating part of your potential userbase right from the start, sigh. Ugh.

npro

@guigirl watched some 60% of it I think you're safe though you don't have to for sure

yeah I stopped using herecura long time ago 'cause I wanted the updates instantly (plus I didn't want pacman always have to sync to another repo anymore).

guigirl

@npro OK so re your method, you've alluded to it many times before, but i've never really grasped it. Would you mind, please, spelling it out for me here, so i can see if i'd also like to change my method? Please type s l o w l y for me...

npro

@guigirl I'll show you a screenshot (prepare for white flash) of my easiest method -1 photo is 1000 words and who wants to type now*- , 'cause I use a couple in order to not forget the sed syntax for example . Nothing fancy with scripts, etc though, I'm also slack, plus I don't like "perfect 1-clicks".

*Also it helps that you are clever already, not my fault

P.S. I think my build directory is defined under /tmp already iirc. Not that you gain much, maybe 2-3 seconds max, again, iirc.
P.S2 oops that screenshot was supposed to show more, I'll reupload

guigirl

@npro said in Arching Vivaldifarians.:

XeroLinux looks cool

I've just watched his vid. Hmmmm, interesting distro. I swooned & drooled at the Calamares package granularity, really fabbo, but tbh felt underwhelmed with the installed system. The theming ain't my taste, so i'd need to redo it anyway, thus losing much of the "point" of this distro. I do wish DT had looked at pacman.conf to see if it uses any non-Arch repos [which i assume it does, like Garuda & Arco]. Overall, despite its Dev's wankerism, we're better for having this spin than not, i think. Ta for posting about it.

npro

@guigirl I found its aesthetics much more pleasant that GcOS and Garuda, imo it strikes a nice middle-ground between them.

Also... is that KDE?
It's beautiful

guigirl

@npro Ta muchly AND bigly . ~~I shall study this later, bit busy now~~, but really appreciate your generosity!

Alright, so i lied [again] who ya gonna call? Ah, so you build this locally, i had not realised that before. What's the build time, & how "usable" is your pc for still doing other stuff during it? Also, you need to fetch the new checksum each time, etc.

Yeah, i can feel my natural laziness beginning to rise up again... heehee.

npro

@guigirl nah, that's nothing, I used to do that locally because of bugreports where I wanted to easily install older versions for comparison (and for trying to have access to hidden versions ), so all I had to do was altering the version numbers, then I just stuck to this mainly "gui" method (for the reason stated above ), while I do practice some other ones from time to time*.

There's no need to fetch checksum (while one could with a script, but only the sha256 iirc, so the PKGBUILD should be probably edited beforehand -and who wants that, we want speed afterall- so we skip it with --skipchecksums already! You are downloading the .rpm from the vivaldi server afterall, if it would be compromised it would have been compromised for everyone already

Build time is nothing, the bottleneck is only in what state the Vivaldi servers are /added: usually butchered at the very first moments of a fresh snapshot (downloading the .rpm) and you don't occupy any crazy CPU power it's just building it from the AUR as usual.

*One could use a yay alias for example with yay vivaldi-snapshot --mflags --skipchecksums --editmenu but this would be strictly terminal where one would be entering numbers and letters all the time.

npro

@npro said in Arching Vivaldifarians.:

in what state the Vivaldi servers are

= usually butchered at the very first moments of a fresh snapshot

added it here in case you 've missed the edit

guigirl

@npro I'm sorry, but i really am too dimwitted to grasp this. My eyes on your screenshot seem to be contradicting my understanding of your accompanying words.

used to do that locally

Huh, but you still are doing local building on your own pc afaict, coz you have your pkgbuild, & your alias, ie, you're running makepkg in Konsole, aren't you?

stuck to this mainly "gui" method

Huh, how is this a gui method? As above, aren't you building via Konsole? Things don't get much more !=gui than that!

it's just building it from the AUR

I just can't see how, based on your screenshot above, AUR is playing any role in your method.

As i said, i'm apparently just too dumb to understand your method. Your nice [but palpably undeserved] hidden compliment above, sadly, only makes me feel even more humiliated now.

npro

@guigirl ok ,ok you devious creature of the night, I know you want to drag me into explaining all the stuff because you know how good of a person I really am, but I wouldn't fall for that that easily

touché

guigirl

@npro said in Arching Vivaldifarians.:

devious creature of the night

What if i take just a jump to the left, and then a step to the right? I shan't even mention what i might do with my hands, hips, and knees!

Ta anyway, i'll just keep waiting on herecura, it seems.

npro

@guigirl said in Arching Vivaldifarians.:

i'll just keep waiting on herecura, it seems.

no tears...

guigirl

@npro Oh this is just ridiculous. All this time i've maintained my unswerving fealty to herecura, only to discover now how foolish i've been.

Looks like it's time to remove an entry from my pacman.conf.

npro

@guigirl ok then, it seems you are really into solving this annoying matter, so I will reply to the previous...

@guigirl said in Arching Vivaldifarians.:

it's just building it from the AUR

I just can't see how, based on your screenshot above, AUR is playing any role in your method.

I'm talking about the building time and the method, that's ~ the same as using the AUR with the traditional method.

Huh, but you still are doing local building on your own pc afaict, coz you have your pkgbuild, & your alias, ie, you're running makepkg in Konsole, aren't you?

stuck to this mainly "gui" method

Huh, how is this a gui method? As above, aren't you building via Konsole? Things don't get much more !=gui than that!

It's opening a file residing in a folder in Dolphin with Kate (or from Kate directly), editing the number, then clicking (if not already opened by default) on show terminal to open a terminal inside Dolphin/Kate (which is an awesome KDE thing) and typing a single command and the password, that's 99% gui, there's no extra opening of Konsole

Specifically, download the snapshot from the AUR and extract the 2 files shown in the screenshot to a folder of your liking, for example under $home/vivaldi-builds/vivaldi-snapshot

Then open the PKGBUILD with Kate, edit the Vivaldi version with the new one posted with every new release, save, press F4 to open the integrated terminal or click the Terminal Panel button to the bottom and then enter the above command for which you could create an alias.

If you have your build directory set somewhere in /tmp in your /etc/makepkg.conf makepkg will unpack the stuff there, create the package and move it to your $home/vivaldi-builds/vivaldi-snapshot then ask you to install it. The 'rm' in my screenshot removes the created .zst and downloaded .rpm file after that, so it keeps that folder clean, leaving only the 2 files for the next time.

guigirl

@npro

how good of a person I really am

download the snapshot from the AUR

Oh. It must seem incomprehensible to you i suppose, but somehow i had not realised that from your earlier posts [told you i'm dim]. That's a pretty important aspect i had entirely failed to grasp. Now the rest of it begins to make more sense.

I might try it [even though i'm actually supposed to be researching something for someone, this seems more fun]. Bigly thanks... you big honey.

Time for a pelvic thrust now?

npro

@guigirl said in Arching Vivaldifarians.:

Time for a pelvic thrust now?

I guess so

guigirl

@npro Not that i want to come across as a stubborn pig-headed argumentative baeoutch, but i was contemplating our discussion, your kind expanded advice, & my observation of surprise that Ike had updated AUR but not his actual repo ... & it lead me to try a different direction.

guigirl@alg-kde-vm ~]$ paru vivaldi-snapshot
1 aur/vivaldi-snapshot 5.2.2581.4-1 [+127 ~0.74]
    An advanced browser made with the power user in mind. Snapshot
2 aur/vivaldi-snapshot-ffmpeg-codecs 98.0.4710.4-1 [+36 ~0.12]
    additional support for proprietary codecs for vivaldi
:: Packages to install (eg: 1 2 3, 1-3):
:: 1
[sudo] password for guigirl: 
:: Resolving dependencies...
:: Calculating conflicts...
:: Calculating inner conflicts...

Repo Make (1) w3m-0.5.3.git20210102_6-1
Aur (1) vivaldi-snapshot-5.2.2581.4-1

:: Proceed to review? [Y/n]: 

:: Downloading PKGBUILDs...
 (1/1) vivaldi-snapshot-5.2.2581.4-1                 [---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------]
/home/guigirl/.cache/paru/clone/vivaldi-snapshot/0001-add-support-for-user-flags.patch
From 68c2dec905a7c88895c458dd40708ab9989385cf Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: BlackEagle <[email protected]>
Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 20:57:58 +0100
Subject: [PATCH] add support for user flags

Signed-off-by: BlackEagle <[email protected]>
---
 vivaldi-stable | 9 ++++++++-
 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/vivaldi-stable b/vivaldi-stable
index 5b5f1bf..8e95859 100755
--- a/vivaldi-stable
+++ b/vivaldi-stable
@@ -53,6 +53,13 @@ export CHROME_VERSION_EXTRA="stable"
 # We don't want bug-buddy intercepting our crashes. http://crbug.com/24120
 export GNOME_DISABLE_CRASH_DIALOG=SET_BY_GOOGLE_CHROME
 
+# Allow users to override command-line options
+XDG_CONFIG_HOME=${XDG_CONFIG_HOME:-$HOME/.config}
+VIVALDI_USER_FLAGS=""
+if [[ -f "$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/vivaldi-$CHROME_VERSION_EXTRA.conf" ]]; then
+   VIVALDI_USER_FLAGS="$(cat "$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/vivaldi-$CHROME_VERSION_EXTRA.conf")"
+fi
+
 # Sanitize std{in,out,err} because they'll be shared with untrusted child
 # processes (http://crbug.com/376567).
 exec < /dev/null
@@ -60,4 +67,4 @@ exec > >(exec cat)
 exec 2> >(exec cat >&2)
 
 # Note: exec -a below is a bashism.
-exec -a "$0" "$HERE/vivaldi-bin" "$@"
+exec -a "$0" "$HERE/vivaldi-bin" $VIVALDI_USER_FLAGS "$@"
-- 
2.34.1



/home/guigirl/.cache/paru/clone/vivaldi-snapshot/PKGBUILD
# Maintainer: BlackIkeEagle <ike DOT devolder AT gmail DOT com>
# Contributor: TZ86

pkgname=vivaldi-snapshot
_rpmversion=5.2.2581.4-1
pkgver=5.2.2581.4
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc='An advanced browser made with the power user in mind. Snapshot'
url="https://vivaldi.com"
options=(!strip !zipman)
license=('custom')
arch=('x86_64')
depends=('gtk3' 'libcups' 'nss' 'alsa-lib' 'libxss' 'ttf-font' 'desktop-file-utils' 'shared-mime-info' 'hicolor-icon-theme')
makedepends=('imagemagick' 'w3m')
optdepends=(
    'vivaldi-snapshot-ffmpeg-codecs: playback of proprietary video/audio'
    'libnotify: native notifications'
)
source=("https://downloads.vivaldi.com/snapshot/vivaldi-snapshot-${_rpmversion}.x86_64.rpm"
        '0001-add-support-for-user-flags.patch')
sha512sums=('e63e896906ffcd2449e3b337dd7bf1155e0397a534248bf26c32823d7611d3e4f7f0b0aaefe9f4cf4a778501171f39b78ec3998117151df277ec0f39d9015f6a'
            '334db2056114fdbf07407b1cee24284f019df7a15acd711ed016bab1a1ab211abf3884ed848f3496486e7c78056108ccf1e88547e22b787bc4f548c6785f64d2')

package() {
    cp --parents -a {opt,usr/bin,usr/share} "$pkgdir"

    # add support for ~/.config/vivaldi-soprano.conf
    patch -p1 -i "$srcdir/0001-add-support-for-user-flags.patch" \
        "$pkgdir/opt/$pkgname/$pkgname"

    # suid sandbox
    chmod 4755 "$pkgdir/opt/$pkgname/vivaldi-sandbox"

    # make /usr/bin/vivaldi-snapshot available
    binf="$pkgdir/usr/bin/$pkgname"
    if [[ ! -e "$binf" ]] && [[ ! -f "$binf" ]] && [[ ! -L "$binf" ]]; then
        install -dm755 "$pkgdir/usr/bin"
        ln -s /opt/$pkgname/$pkgname "$binf"
    fi

    # 256 and 24 are proper colored icons
    for res in 128 64 48 32; do
        convert "$pkgdir/opt/$pkgname/product_logo_256.png" \
            -resize ${res}x${res} \
            "$pkgdir/opt/$pkgname/product_logo_$res.png"
    done
    for res in 22 16; do
        convert "$pkgdir/opt/$pkgname/product_logo_24.png" \
            -resize ${res}x${res} \
            "$pkgdir/opt/$pkgname/product_logo_$res.png"
    done

    # install icons
    for res in 16 22 24 32 48 64 128 256; do
        install -Dm644 "$pkgdir/opt/$pkgname/product_logo_${res}.png" \
            "$pkgdir/usr/share/icons/hicolor/${res}x${res}/apps/$pkgname.png"
    done

    # install global icon in case hicolor theme gets bypassed
    install -Dm644 "$pkgdir/opt/$pkgname/product_logo_256.png" \
        "$pkgdir/usr/share/pixmaps/$pkgname.png"

    # license
    install -dm755 "$pkgdir/usr/share/licenses/$pkgname"
    w3m -dump "$pkgdir/opt/$pkgname/LICENSE.html" \
        | head -n 5 \
        > "$pkgdir/usr/share/licenses/$pkgname/license.txt"
}


/home/guigirl/.cache/paru/clone/vivaldi-snapshot/.gitignore
src
pkg
*.log
*.log.*
*.pkg.tar.?z


:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n]: 
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...

Package (1)  New Version            Net Change  Download Size

extra/w3m    0.5.3.git20210102_6-1    1.93 MiB       0.95 MiB

Total Download Size:   0.95 MiB
Total Installed Size:  1.93 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] 
:: Retrieving packages...
 w3m-0.5.3.git20210102_6-1-x86_64                         971.9 KiB   367 KiB/s 00:03 [--------------------------------------------------] 100%
(1/1) checking keys in keyring                                                        [--------------------------------------------------] 100%
(1/1) checking package integrity                                                      [--------------------------------------------------] 100%
(1/1) loading package files                                                           [--------------------------------------------------] 100%
(1/1) checking for file conflicts                                                     [--------------------------------------------------] 100%
(1/1) checking available disk space                                                   [--------------------------------------------------] 100%
:: Processing package changes...
(1/1) installing w3m                                                                  [--------------------------------------------------] 100%
Optional dependencies for w3m
    imlib2: for graphics support [installed]
:: Running post-transaction hooks...
(1/2) Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...
(2/2) Refreshing PackageKit...
fetching devel info...
==> Making package: vivaldi-snapshot 5.2.2581.4-1 (Tue 15 Feb 2022 16:10:04)
==> Retrieving sources...
  -> Downloading vivaldi-snapshot-5.2.2581.4-1.x86_64.rpm...
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
100 82.9M  100 82.9M    0     0  2167k      0  0:00:39  0:00:39 --:--:-- 2291k
  -> Found 0001-add-support-for-user-flags.patch
==> Validating source files with sha512sums...
    vivaldi-snapshot-5.2.2581.4-1.x86_64.rpm ... Passed
    0001-add-support-for-user-flags.patch ... Passed
==> Making package: vivaldi-snapshot 5.2.2581.4-1 (Tue 15 Feb 2022 16:10:44)
==> Checking runtime dependencies...
==> Checking buildtime dependencies...
==> Retrieving sources...
  -> Found vivaldi-snapshot-5.2.2581.4-1.x86_64.rpm
  -> Found 0001-add-support-for-user-flags.patch
==> Validating source files with sha512sums...
    vivaldi-snapshot-5.2.2581.4-1.x86_64.rpm ... Passed
    0001-add-support-for-user-flags.patch ... Passed
==> Removing existing $srcdir/ directory...
==> Extracting sources...
  -> Extracting vivaldi-snapshot-5.2.2581.4-1.x86_64.rpm with bsdtar
==> Sources are ready.
vivaldi-snapshot-5.2.2581.4-1: parsing pkg list...
==> Making package: vivaldi-snapshot 5.2.2581.4-1 (Tue 15 Feb 2022 16:10:53)
==> Checking runtime dependencies...
==> Checking buildtime dependencies...
==> WARNING: Using existing $srcdir/ tree
==> Entering fakeroot environment...
==> Starting package()...
patching file /home/guigirl/.cache/paru/clone/vivaldi-snapshot/pkg/vivaldi-snapshot/opt/vivaldi-snapshot/vivaldi-snapshot
==> Tidying install...
  -> Removing libtool files...
  -> Purging unwanted files...
  -> Removing static library files...
==> Checking for packaging issues...
==> Creating package "vivaldi-snapshot"...
  -> Generating .PKGINFO file...
  -> Generating .BUILDINFO file...
  -> Generating .MTREE file...
  -> Compressing package...
==> Leaving fakeroot environment.
==> Finished making: vivaldi-snapshot 5.2.2581.4-1 (Tue 15 Feb 2022 16:11:02)
==> Cleaning up...
loading packages...
resolving dependencies...
looking for conflicting packages...

Package (1)       New Version   Net Change

vivaldi-snapshot  5.2.2581.4-1  293.16 MiB

Total Installed Size:  293.16 MiB

:: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] 
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(1/1) loading package files                                                           [--------------------------------------------------] 100%
(1/1) checking for file conflicts                                                     [--------------------------------------------------] 100%
(1/1) checking available disk space                                                   [--------------------------------------------------] 100%
:: Processing package changes...
(1/1) installing vivaldi-snapshot                                                     [--------------------------------------------------] 100%
Optional dependencies for vivaldi-snapshot
    vivaldi-snapshot-ffmpeg-codecs: playback of proprietary video/audio
    libnotify: native notifications [installed]
:: Running post-transaction hooks...
(1/4) Arming ConditionNeedsUpdate...
(2/4) Refreshing PackageKit...
(3/4) Updating icon theme caches...
(4/4) Updating the desktop file MIME type cache...
[guigirl@alg-kde-vm ~]$ 


[guigirl@alg-kde-vm ~]$ /opt/vivaldi-snapshot/update-ffmpeg --user
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
100 1115k  100 1115k    0     0   388k      0  0:00:02  0:00:02 --:--:--  388k
Proprietary media codecs (97.0.4692.71) has been installed (PLEASE RESTART VIVALDI)
[guigirl@alg-kde-vm ~]$

It worked a treat ... & was acceptably fast + unintensive. Next time i notice another delay in herecura but with AUR already updated, i think i'll repeat this method. Sure, i know, it's not sophisticated like your method, but i think it's good enough for a duffer like me.

PS / OT

Btw, to ensure that the media was playing ok, i visited this random YT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo1P4RVsxB8, & was thoroughly enchanted by the lovely-seeming couple with their warmth & openness. It felt a bit voyeuristic of me, yet was a fascinating insight into another slice of humanity. Then... i began weeping, as i remembered the imminent horror about to unfold, unless the madmen come to their senses.

jumpsq

I wonder what went wrong there, since the repo was updated right away and the CI pipeline shows no errors. I guess I'll send them a mail.
https://gitlab.com/herecura/packages/vivaldi-snapshot

// Yeah, there has actually been an issue. Updating again, now.